Routers & Other Networking Stuff

Captain Suave

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UI just launched a new Dream Router 7. 2.5gb ethernet WAN port and 10gbSFP+ port with 2.5gb switch.
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Dream Router 7 - Ubiquiti Store

Desktop 10G Cloud Gateway with integrated WiFi 7, PoE switch, microSD storage, and full UniFi application support.
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I've never had a consumer-grade router that I like and that lasted. I ponied up and bought a UDM-Pro a couple years ago and love it (also using their mesh network WAPs, which have been flawless). I threw in a spare drive and set up one of UI's doorbells and four exterior PoE cameras and it all works flawlessly through their Protect platform. Bonus points for keeping all my footage off the cloud.
 
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Captain Suave said:
I've never had a consumer-grade router that I like and that lasted. I ponied up and bought a UDM-Pro a couple years ago and love it (also using their mesh network WAPs, which have been flawless). I threw in a spare drive and set up one of UI's doorbells and four exterior PoE cameras and it all works flawlessly through their Protect platform. Bonus points for keeping all my footage off the cloud.
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Oh dang you shouldn't have let me know they have a doorbell solution... oooff my wallet
 
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At this point I'm in the ecosystem for a couple thousand bucks, but everything has worked flawlessly. Router has enough horsepower to serve the full capacity of my gigabit fiber, I get usable wifi on my entire property from two access points, including outdoors and the detached garage, and the five cameras provide 2 weeks of continuous playback and a few months of AI-detected event clips on a 2 TB drive. You can set up an arbitrary number of WLANs including scheduling (I have my kids on a restricted network that disconnects their devices at bedtime, IOT network forbids gadgets from interacting with each other), run a personal VPN, good interface for device filtering and port forwarding, etc, etc. Full admin access from offsite through mobile apps, along with real-time notifications from the doorbells and cameras.

Not cheap, but worth it IMO. 9/10 value at the price point because it "just works". People who dislike the platform tend to be professional IT administrators who recreationally roll their own linux servers for all this, which I don't have time for beyond my NAS, or pony up for enterprise-level hardware that most of us can't/won't afford.
 
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I’d like to migrate over especially now that I have PoE wired in my attic and easy access into my network closet but we are in with Reolink at the moment and seems like the Dream Machine doesn’t support ONVIF? May look in to it more bc the WiFi router that came with our AT&T fiber has been working well but we have some pretty bad dead spots downstairs and I’d like to drop in some extenders that aren’t just the plug in the wall types. Maybe a summer project to add to my list of things. Would love to figure out how to get CAT5 to my doorbell and get it off WiFi.
 
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seems like the Dream Machine doesn’t support ONVIF?
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It appears they added support in a relatively recent Protect update.


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UniFi Protect ONVIF 3rd Party Camera Tests - Any Good?

UniFi Protect ONVIF Camera Update Testing Last week we found out that UniFi intended to integrate ONVIF support into its Protect surveillance platform. Ubiquiti went ahead and made this UniFi Protect update available, and I managed to spend a decent amount of time playing with my existing range of
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Nbc GIF by America's Got Talent
 
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I likely would have bought the Dream Router 7 if i didn't recently pick up some other UI gear. Have the Cloud Gateway Max and stuck an NVME in it to use with Protect.

I've been looking at that UI doorbell hard the last few months and i want it so bad but oof the price vs competitors. I found out I could still get Protect to store the videofeed from a Uefy doorbell for half the price but never pulled the trigger. HOA shot down my ability to install exterior cameras but a doorbell was fine which killed my drive at the time.
 
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Captain Suave said:
It appears they added support in a relatively recent Protect update.


nascompares.com

UniFi Protect ONVIF 3rd Party Camera Tests - Any Good?

UniFi Protect ONVIF Camera Update Testing Last week we found out that UniFi intended to integrate ONVIF support into its Protect surveillance platform. Ubiquiti went ahead and made this UniFi Protect update available, and I managed to spend a decent amount of time playing with my existing range of
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Thanks! Was just boarding a flight and was going to look in to this later.
 
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So got the UDR 7 in and last week setup everything. It's pretty slick. I upgraded to the zone based firewall which is way easier since it's basically cloud networking instead of archaic stuff.

Unfortunately, while it did fix some issues over the basic router, the wifi radios didn't fix everything. My original setup was a 6e mesh with 6ghz dedicated to the backhaul. Ubiquiti doesn't have an equivalent mesh device out yet, and I'm reluctant to create more RF traffic. I have about 60 devices including all my IoT stuff.

So placed an order for a U7 Pro Wall and going to run cat 6 in the basement garage to the other side of the house into our great room which is where 90% of our daily use is anyway. It sucks because the regular U7 has 2 ports but no 6ghz, whereas pro has no ports but the radio. I guess long term if I end up needing to add ports I can put a small switch there.

Also changing 50ish IoT devices to new SSID is a pain in the dick. At least it's done now.
 
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Got a question for you all. Next Monday I'm getting fiber to my house for the 1st time ever. But I *think* I got all excited and signed up for the wrong package. Let me explain;

I have an Amplifi Alien router, 2 - 16 port unmanaged switches (Netgear GS116 if it matters) and well too many PC's. The 2 switches are connected via Cat 5e cable.

In my excitement I signed up for their fastest speed which is 2gb up/down. I'm thinking now I should limit it to 1gb up/down unless I want to redo my entire network (which I don't). All we do is watch videos on the living room TV and I game some. I can change it at any time so it's not like I'm locked in for a year or so.

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Got a question for you all. Next Monday I'm getting fiber to my house for the 1st time ever. But I *think* I got all excited and signed up for the wrong package. Let me explain;

I have an Amplifi Alien router, 2 - 16 port unmanaged switches (Netgear GS116 if it matters) and well too many PC's. The 2 switches are connected via Cat 5e cable.

In my excitement I signed up for their fastest speed which is 2gb up/down. I'm thinking now I should limit it to 1gb up/down unless I want to redo my entire network (which I don't). All we do is watch videos on the living room TV and I game some. I can change it at any time so it's not like I'm locked in for a year or so.

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Nobody's ever been sad that they had too much bandwidth... Even if it could theoretically exceed the capacity of your network, how often does anyone really get the quoted speed? Also, with some extra capacity, you could have some wifi devices doing their thing without denting your primary connection. #highqualityproblems
 
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Nobody's ever been sad that they had too much bandwidth... Even if it could theoretically exceed the capacity of your network, how often does anyone really get the quoted speed? Also, with some extra capacity, you could have some wifi devices doing their thing without denting your primary connection. #highqualityproblems
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Yeah told the wife I'm leaving it as is. It's $99 month for 2gb $79 for 1gb no limit and I don't *think* I have to rent a modem/router. I don't now with their line of site wi-fi. I know there is no contract.
 
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Captain Suave

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how often does anyone really get the quoted speed?
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I get 985 Mbps up and down off my gigabit fiber (Frontier). Pretty damn close.

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I'm thinking now I should limit it to 1gb up/down unless I want to redo my entire network (which I don't).

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From brief research it looks like your router's WAN port caps out at 1 Gbps. Hardly any consumer or even pro-sumer grade hardware offers more than that. I wouldn't pay for the extra.
 
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The bandwidth is really only useful if you have alot of people in the house constantly streaming or downloading gigantic files. For the average 2 person household 500/500 is more than enough.
 
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And almost no host other than speed tests will even serve you data at that rate. Maybe if you're running a 20+ big torrents in parallel or backing up some kind of massive uncompressed media files. Netflix 4k streams are only ~25 Mbps. Practically speaking you're going to saturate the processing power/RAM of your router before you even get close to the bandwidth limit.
 
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Even a 4k stream on netflix is like 25M. Are you streaming 40 4k netflix streams at the same time? No one uses even close to 1G, I think 300M is a pretty average number for people.
 
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It can be nice situationally. Steam can throw down some bits pretty fast for example.
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Imma do 1g up/down Monday and go from there. Really looking forward to it honestly. I'm on 40Mbps down / 10 up now.
 
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Rabbit_Games said:
I love my 1g service. It's AT&T fiber and the issues I have are neighborhood related, not from AT&T.
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One really good thing about this internet provider is it's also the power coop and when you call you don't get bob the AI fuckbot , you get a person who speaks English and has a 90% chance of being white. Other than them being very unorganized with their subcontractors, I've had very little trouble with the internet service I have with them now. I am very much looking forward to Monday.
 
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