Shadowrun Returns

It's almost like people's opinions can change when they get more information!

Yeah I'm just busting your balls a bit. The player generated content has been pretty fucking disappointing so far, and the fact that they're charging 15 bucks for the Berlin 'expansion' is a travesty.

Depends how big it is I guess. Hopefully at least as big as the original.

Gavinrad_sl said:

Yeah I'm just busting your balls a bit. The player generated content has been pretty fucking disappointing so far, and the fact that they're charging 15 bucks for the Berlin 'expansion' is a travesty.

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I feel like we all set ourselves up for disappointment. This was in the works for so long and people were expecting it to be amazing and relaunch Shadowrun gaming with modern technology, particularly after the horrible "Shadowrun" FPS.

Instead, we got a mediocre Fallout 2 clone.

Duppin_sl said:

I feel like we all set ourselves up for disappointment. This was in the works for so long and people were expecting it to be amazing and relaunch Shadowrun gaming with modern technology, particularly after the horrible "Shadowrun" FPS.

Instead, we got a mediocre Fallout 2 clone.

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Maybe your expectations were set too high.

Duppin_sl said:

I feel like we all set ourselves up for disappointment. This was in the works for so long and people were expecting it to be amazing and relaunch Shadowrun gaming with modern technology, particularly after the horrible "Shadowrun" FPS.

Instead, we got a mediocre Fallout 2 clone.

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not at all.

but look at the might and magic x thread. or grimrock back when that came out.
Old school games that gave exactly what we wanted.


Amusingly, MMX is very much flawed itself. but its flawed in places that don't matter that much. Shadowrun is flawed where it counts unfortunately.

That save system should NEVER have gone live.

If we are getting the pitchforks out then it has to be about yet another months delay when this was pushed back to January from October.
Consensus on release was that it was fine that the campaign was short if they got the next one out quickly. They have failed abjectly on that.

Expansion comes out Thursday btw.

Some updates and video previews

Trailer looks good. I picked it up a while back, so looking forward to see how this campaign turns out.

Numbers_sl said:

Trailer looks good. I picked it up a while back, so looking forward to see how this campaign turns out.

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The open world aspects will be a nice change from the regular campaign. Pretty sure you have more of a consistent party too, which I'm a little meh about.

Still looking forward to it.

I guess I really need to finish Dead Man's Switch, I'm like 2 missions from the end I think.

Budos_sl said:

The open world aspects will be a nice change from the regular campaign.

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What are the open world aspects? I looked at a few reviews but didn't see anything specific that indicated how it would be less linear than the first campaign.

Arden_sl said:

What are the open world aspects? I looked at a few reviews but didn't see anything specific that indicated how it would be less linear than the first campaign.

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Dev's posted a while back saying it would be much less on rails. There's a hub where you can choose which missions to do and when.

'Open world,' is kinda relative with this game.

fanaskin_sl said:

were they really? we where comparing our hopes to sega and super nintendo games after all

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No rose coloured glasses at all?

Well I didnt play fallout 2. or snes shadowruns. So I don't think I had rose colored glasses.

I was disappointed.


The save issue is unforgivable.
The actual gameplay mechanics were also questionable. Things like mage lay lines being pointless. Deckers and how they were implimented. Deckers in party... not being able to open locks, etc.
It was extremely linear. Small maps. Tactical combat was limited/nonexistant.

NPC models are atrocious/unforgivable. Portraits nice. Background art. great.

The save system was the one big unacceptable thing to me. A lot of the rest, not all mind you, was probably effected by their rather limited budget. 1.8 mil doesn't usually get you very far in this industry.

Can save anywhere now.

So anyone with some early impressions of the xpac? I enjoyed the OC, but not enough to drop another 15 bucks on the game if they haven't made some improvements.

Has a better story and more in depth character building so far. I haven't gotten too far into it but it appears that the engine is the same, but you can make multiple saves whenever you want. Your paying for the new campaign essentially. They have also done some tweaking and bug fixing.