When you compare battery life in hours, it's immediately apples to oranges. What Ked was trying to insinuate Samsung devices defy physics and use far less power than HTC device. That's not true, as I demonstrated comparing battery life according to their battery size. I also love your comment "A may be bigger than B, but that's about it." The fact that it's bigger meansit will have longer battery life under the same condition. That's why it's apples to oranges.A is something portable that lets you do remote computing. B is something portable that lets you do remote computing. Both can be useful to perform the same tasks. This comparison is a realistic comparison, depending on how you make use of your A and B. Get your head out of your ass and calm down a bit.
I'm specifically having a hard time with "battery A is summarily different than battery B" (A may be bigger than B, but that's about it) and "SoCs are in the early stages of development" (sure, they aren't as mature as CPUs on a motherboard, but they're by no means new). As with laptops, some smartphones are more battery-efficient than others, sometimes by a considerable amount.
For example (and this took 2 seconds to find):
Longest lasting smartphone batteries:http://reviews.cnet.com/2719-11288_7-290-2.html(0 of 20 are HTC)
Shortest lasting smartphone batteries:http://reviews.cnet.com/2719-11288_7-290-3.html(5 of 20 are HTC)
HTC list:http://reviews.cnet.com/2719-11288_7-290-6.html
Samsung list:http://reviews.cnet.com/2719-11288_7-290-15.html
Some of this is apples vs. oranges, but that's subjective. I use my phone mostly for data. Some people use their phones purely for voice. Some don't use either and just play games/listen to music all day. So, YMMV; in the end, both you and Kedwyn are right.
You're still thinking in the absolute values I've given, so you're the retard.Last post on this, here are my battery stats from yesterday.
IIRC 60% or so Wifi rest on 4g. Bulk of the screen time was Wifi approximately 2 hours via 4g. About an hour streaming music as well with the screen off via 4g. Everything syncing normally.
20-30% off isn't close you retard. The difference is close to what you claim to get in total.
I'm actually leaning towards the Nexus 4 because of the slightly smaller screen at this point. The S4 is 5" compared with 4.7", but even that is 1" more than I had previously and I didn't really feel like I needed a bigger screen. I already have a tablet so Note is mostly lost on me as well.Nexus 4 is solid but I'd go with Samsung S4 or the Note 3 later in the year. You can almost always find an AOSP ROM to flash.
I'm not comparing devices. I'm comparing usage profiles. If A can do the same thing B can, for twice the number of hours, sounds like A (smartphone) has a leg up on B (laptop) for that particular purpose, yeah? Step outside the box a little. That's all I'm saying.I'm not even going to touch the laptop to smartphone comparison. You're comparing two completely different technology with the same expectation. I can't even fathom why you think it's a good comparison.
No personal experience, but I've heard mixed reviews. Apparently it doesn't charge well unless the device is absolutely flush against the cradle. Even the extra space occupied by phone cases can cause problems (some low-tolerance 1/r^2 action going on probably). There are also various stories about overheating. For $60 as compared to peanuts for a wall charger/USB cable I'll just plug the thing in.Anyone have any experience with the inductive charging for the Nexus 4? Google just sent me an email about it being released. Seems pretty steep at 60 bones. It's not like it's that hard to just plug it in when I'm at my desk at work anyways. The email says estimated charging time of 4 hours, which I have a hard time believing, because even plugged in to USB it's slower than that (much faster with the wall charger).
I have the Verizon branded LG Qi inductive charger and it works fantastically. I love not having to plug my phone in every night. It just sits by my bedside. It beeps when I put it on the charger, but other than that it is as non-invasive as I could hope for. It has made me a convert to wireless charging pads. I like it even better than the Touchstone for my Touchpad.Anyone have any experience with the inductive charging for the Nexus 4? Google just sent me an email about it being released. Seems pretty steep at 60 bones. It's not like it's that hard to just plug it in when I'm at my desk at work anyways. The email says estimated charging time of 4 hours, which I have a hard time believing, because even plugged in to USB it's slower than that (much faster with the wall charger).
I bought the 16GB Nexus 4 and several months in I've realized I could have gone with the 8GB. I just don't store all that much on my phone. Any documents I need access to are stored on Google Drive and all my pics are uploaded instantly to Google+. That being said, I have a separate iPod for my music in my car and without that I'd have much less space on my phone.There's an app called easytether that I used to use to give my laptop internet via usb from my phone, no idea if it's still updated/works though.
I'm torn on what smartphone to go for... the nexus 4 is really nice but no SD card slot kinda bums me out. The Galaxy S4 isn't out yet and honestly don't want a 5" screen (would rather go for 4.5"-ish). The Razr Maxx/Maxx HD look great but I don't think they're T-Mobile compatible.
Yea I recently sold my old mp3 player before it totally became worthless, I just had no need for one. I usually had anywhere from 200-1000 songs on my phone, so I could theoretically live without the SD card if I got a 16gb (my Incredible was 8gb internal + 8gb card), it's just a feature I really like having since I use it to transfer and store things sometimes.I bought the 16GB Nexus 4 and several months in I've realized I could have gone with the 8GB. I just don't store all that much on my phone. Any documents I need access to are stored on Google Drive and all my pics are uploaded instantly to Google+. That being said, I have a separate iPod for my music in my car and without that I'd have much less space on my phone.