Star Trek: Starfleet Academy

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That’s probably why they chose this distant time period - they basically have a blank canvas where they can change all sorts of shit and hand wave it away as “stuff changed in 800 years”

And if people don’t like it, timeline gets changed during the “current” era so this never happens (like Temporal Cold War in Enterprise)
but its not just "blank canvas", its nothing would even remotely look or sound the same.

800 years ago.
the year 1225.

and this was a period due to lack of fast travel or communication that culture spread slowly.

100 years from now will be virtually unimaginable.

the 800 years is not an accident.

as per Discovery there was a time war, and timetravel ships were all banned/destroyed in the 31st century.
this show takes place in the 32nd.

they jumped forward, to avoid having to deal with all the timetravel as established in TNG and voyager, from 2400-3000.
but are of course not actually going to deal with ANY of the cultural, or other technical advances that would be made in that time.
 
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Just gonna call it now, this video is better than this pile of shit series.
 
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they jumped forward, to avoid having to deal with all the timetravel as established in TNG and voyager, from 2400-3000.
but are of course not actually going to deal with ANY of the cultural, or other technical advances that would be made in that time.
That's good news. I always fucking hated the time travel shit. But I'll bet dollars to donuts they pull it out anyway as soon as they run out of idea.

100 years from now will be virtually unimaginable.
OK sure. But will it really? from our perspective with our understanding, we wouldn't notice much difference. Both periods are pretty unimaginable. I bet if we had a real time machine and travelled around 200 years, 400 years, 600, 800 years, and 1000 years into the future; the further out we got the fewer changes we would notice. The biggest advancements would be in technologies we don't even understand. You get to a point with tech that the advancements come slower. Moore's law petered out eventually. How far have we come with fire in the last 1000 years? That was all the rage at one time.

The real differences would be that earthlings would look different and we wouldn't be able to understand anyone even if they spoke english. But that's kind of washed out by the fact that there are no travellers from 1000 years in the past. This is a story not a blueprint. It's OK if they don't bother with the fact that humanity will probably be wiped out and insectoids will be the real earthlings. This way we can empathize with the characters.

Anyway, all that said, they're probably not going to do enough work to be worthy of the defense I just gave them.
 

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That's good news. I always fucking hated the time travel shit. But I'll bet dollars to donuts they pull it out anyway as soon as they run out of idea.


OK sure. But will it really? from our perspective with our understanding, we wouldn't notice much difference. Both periods are pretty unimaginable. I bet if we had a real time machine and travelled around 200 years, 400 years, 600, 800 years, and 1000 years into the future; the further out we got the fewer changes we would notice. The biggest advancements would be in technologies we don't even understand. You get to a point with tech that the advancements come slower. Moore's law petered out eventually. How far have we come with fire in the last 1000 years? That was all the rage at one time.

The real differences would be that earthlings would look different and we wouldn't be able to understand anyone even if they spoke english. But that's kind of washed out by the fact that there are no travellers from 1000 years in the past. This is a story not a blueprint. It's OK if they don't bother with the fact that humanity will probably be wiped out and insectoids will be the real earthlings. This way we can empathize with the characters.

Anyway, all that said, they're probably not going to do enough work to be worthy of the defense I just gave them.
ha. yeah. I give it 3 episodes before time travel.

as for point b.
kind of. yes, this is always a problem with star trek. like people like to pretend its hard sci fi. but, it absolutely does not actually touch on the actual implications or world building of anything. "post money" society. ok. whats that look like, how does that work? lalallalallalallalalal. never actually touched on. why would anyone do anything without any direct reward structure?
people often make star trek versus star wars, versus 40k, etc battle sims. and star trek tech is just off the charts. teleporters, replicators, forcefields, phazers. The Enterprise can destroy a planet by itself in minutes. Exterminatus in 40k takes DAYS of constant bombardment by multiple cruisers.

star trek is already exploring other dimensions, and timetravel by 2400..

800 years they should have fully explored the galaxy and being going extra galactic.
colonized other dimensions.

but the point is ANY of that stuff would just completely change culture entirely.
would everyone be penpals with their Universe 658 doppleganger?

More things they will never touch on. "Federation of planets", yet all the other cultures are obliterated to join the human culture. worse then the borg.
 

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More things they will never touch on. "Federation of planets", yet all the other cultures are obliterated to join the human culture. worse then the borg.
This kind of gets back to one of my points. Humans wouldn't be humans. Even if the insectoids didn't rise and overthrow us, we'd be fucking every alien we met. In 1000 years there'd be no pure humans left.

Also, I don't think the universe would survive dimension jumping and time travel. It's just too fucking messy and that's why I hate it as a storyline. The problem is, original trek did them both in a very limited way and did it well. So now every franchise feels like they can do it too.
 
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