Star Trek: Starfleet Academy

Izo said:

Karim Diane Responds To STAR TREK: STARFLEET ACADEMY Backlash, Calls Season 2 "GAY AF"

With Star Trek: Starfleet Academy ending after Season 2, actor Karim Diane is responding to backlash with humor and pride, calling the season “GAY AF” while celebrating his groundbreaking role as Jay-Den.

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That space Kang kept one thing real - faggots are good at having a blast burning other peoples' money.

Mike from RLM said he heard from a source that the entire full season of Academy had 400,000 views total. The entire season, not per episode.

Picard S3 was the last time anyone gave a fuck. SNW had a run but didn't get the fans back that it promised.

ShakyJake said:

Mike from RLM said he heard from a source that the entire full season of Academy had 400,000 views total. The entire season, not per episode.

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They put the first 2 eps on Youtube. E1:122k views. E2:30k views. That would mean they ended up with an audience of roughly 30k.

They also removed it from their app. LOL. Can only find it by manual search.

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Even that title is disingenuous

It was cancelled after essentially two episodes, the morons with the money pen just ordered a 2nd season before the first started based upon liberal circle jerking, have they even filed the 2nd doomed season?

Siliconemelons said:

Even that title is disingenuous

It was cancelled after essentially two episodes, the morons with the money pen just ordered a 2nd season before the first started based upon liberal circle jerking, have they even filed the 2nd doomed season?

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Didn't the flamer pretty much state that s2 is just the original full S1

Siliconemelons said:

Even that title is disingenuous

It was cancelled after essentially two episodes, the morons with the money pen just ordered a 2nd season before the first started based upon liberal circle jerking, have they even filed the 2nd doomed season?

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2nd season was already filmed and presumably already in post based on my understanding

“After two seasons”

It has not been two seasons… it’s disingenuous wording to make it sound better than it is. So moronic money wasters greenlit and filmed “season 2” before 1 was out or even done, and it gets canceled as much as it can “after” merely a few episodes “are aired”

It’s a stupid trend where they celebrate shows and “got a 2nd season!!!” Before they even start…. And ever show that does that is SJW LHBTWTFBQ liberal trash - because if they didn’t… they could not for the sake of fudging the semantics say “well it was good enough for at least 2 seasons! It was not a total failure!!!”

it was an abortion that somehow survived and they kept it on life support long enough to call it a "win"

The speculation is that to qualify for and keep any tax breaks the production received they had to finish up the already approved second season and release versus bailing on the whole thing. Season 1 is only eight episodes. Even if we lump in the second season that's only another eight. As a comparison TNG's season one went 26.

They might be calling it season 2 but they were filmed together. It's more like stranger things where they just release half the season at a time.

Hopefully Kurtz is really done

Historically, TV actors would push for (or even have negotiated) pay bumps 3/4 seasons in, as back in the syndication days, a show surviving that long would be in the black up to that point once those syndication deals were included.

So networks (or streamers) have every incentive to film ~15 to 20 episodes at once with the same cast and crew - a season contractually - but air that over two years as "two" seasons as far as the public is concerned, to delay when personnel get pay bumps.

Streamers specifically then have an additional incentive to split each of those 'seasons' into multiple chunks aired at different times to maximize the number of months people pay subscriptions for.
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As far as Kurtzman, I haven't seen anything official, but considering the Warner Bros merger means Paramount have massive debt upcoming but also can't act as if the WB merger is happening until the paperwork is finalized, I don't think you're going to hear anything until his contact is over in August. I can't imagine he gets another deal considering how Section 31 and Academy have gone.

Orville showed that Seth McFarland understood Trek - wonder if he would ever jump on that if Paramount offered funding

Wombat said:

Historically, TV actors would push for (or even have negotiated) pay bumps 3/4 seasons in, as back in the syndication days, a show surviving that long would be in the black up to that point once those syndication deals were included.

So networks (or streamers) have every incentive to film ~15 to 20 episodes at once with the same cast and crew - a season contractually - but air that over two years as "two" seasons as far as the public is concerned, to delay when personnel get pay bumps.

Streamers specifically then have an additional incentive to split each of those 'seasons' into multiple chunks aired at different times to maximize the number of months people pay subscriptions for.
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As far as Kurtzman, I haven't seen anything official, but considering the Warner Bros merger means Paramount have massive debt upcoming but also can't act as if the WB merger is happening until the paperwork is finalized, I don't think you're going to hear anything until his contact is over in August. I can't imagine he gets another deal considering how Section 31 and Academy have gone.

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didn't GoT's budget get fucking astronomical because of that? bunch of no name actors (for the most part) at the start of the series and then all the ones that were still around by S7/8 were making millions per episode

Historically, that's how network TV worked - at most you had one big name with a bunch of nobodies, because a lot of shows failed even with limited cast costs. Everyone but the star would be paid peanuts, at least until season 3 started, at which point season 4 was all but guaranteed, even if they sold the show to the tv network at a loss, as they could count on the syndication package.

Nowadays with streamers? Who knows. Very few shows are going to get syndicated, and DVD sets are dead. We don't have any real visibility on how much HBO is really getting out of GoT season 8 episodes nowadays. Hell, we have very little visibility on subscriptions in general, much less how much each individual show factors into subscription trends. At least historically with HBO and the like, the metric was how many _unique_ subscriptions each show generated - how many people are subscribing to HBO to watch DTF St Louis, but would not have paid a subscription to get HBO if that show wasn't on the air.

Which again is the whole point of a Starfleet Academy - would _existing_ Paramount subscribers prefer two Strange New Worlds instead of SNW and Academy? Absolutely. Does Paramount get more unique subscribers airing both SNW and Academy? That is the real question we don't have visibility on.

But yes, with the death of DVDs and syndication, we are seeing more 'prestige' shows - shows with small episode counts and a couple mid-level names (like a DTF St Louis, with Bateman and Harbour), that are never going to hit 100 episodes (or possibly even 10).