Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

Foggy_sl said:

He isn't suppose to be a Vader. Also, I bet kids have a different view of him than adults. Vader was also an incredibly one dimensional character until Empire. Additional, it isn't fair to compare the Kylo character to one of the, if not the, best villains ever.

I felt bad for Kylo by the end of the movie. He was clearly in pain and I think he really wanted to be saved. I loved the character, second only to Rey. He was everything Anakin should have been.

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What, a whiny pussy? I thought both characters did a great job of portraying that.

Rhanin_sl said:

Epicstream

I want this to be what happens. I really really do.

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That's the most retarded thing I've ever read...

You can never kill the Dark side anyway, it's a balance with the Force.

Snoke goes away another one will follow.

Kylo Ren kills everyone so he could be seduced by the Dark Side to kill Snoke? Fucking idiots

My bet is Rey is Lukes aunt not his daughter.

They should just introduce a character who is a Zealot, and believes all Force Users are the problem.

Kill them all

Rhanin_sl said:

Epicstream

I want this to be what happens. I really really do.

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Seems familiar.

Rey turning to the dark side is so far fetched, that it's only for the sake of plot twist.
You now have a connection with the character, she's the nobody that will become, probably, a jedi night, just like Luke.

This movie was safe in all aspects. We've seen no indication that Disney would take a risk and have Rey go dark.

Yep. Rey is just the latestDisney Princess.

She's basically a jewish Mulan with a lightsaber.

Plus they already have a female baddie.

koljec_sl said:

Here's how I would frame it up -- would you wear a T-Shirt with Vader's mask on it? Would you wear a T-shirt with Kylo's mask or face on it? Or what little kid would want to be Kylo Ren for Halloween?

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I wouldn't wear either because I'm not a neckbearded basement dweller.

There was a little kid wearing a Kylo mask/costume in the row in front of me at the movie...

Lyrical_sl said:

She was an orange Yoda. She ran a cantina inside her royal palace.

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That was a complaint/critique of mine coming out of the theater. She was a "yoda" figure. That was the entire point of her character. Little cute humanoid wise one. More of the callback/mimicry stuff.

I really hope the next movie drops that shit and just decides to be a movie. The fear seems to be that Trek had the same issue but JJ not only continued in the second one but doubled down on callbacks and fan service. If that's the case I'm starting to wonder if the stand alone side story movies might actually be better than the main trilogy. At least they won't feel the need to mimic Ep 4-6 with those.

kegkilla_sl said:

Rey is not turning to the dark side. this is Disney you retards. they have billions invested in merchandising this shit and selling 8 year old girls jedi thongs and what not. god damn you people are fucking dumb for even considering that could happen.

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Yes but this is also Star Wars so Rey will be tempted just like Luke and Anikin were.

Her odds of going to the darkside more then temporarily are about the same as Lukes were. That being roughly zero.

Column_sl said:

They should just introduce a character who is a Zealot, and believes all Force Users are the problem.

Kill them all

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The Operative from Firefly. There's a memorable bad guy!

Rey is not turning to the dark side. this is Disney you retards. they have billions invested in merchandising this shit and selling 8 year old girls jedi thongs and what not. god damn you people are fucking dumb for even considering that could happen.

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This would also make sense, and yet it would become another reason to hate the bottom-line-dictated IP that Disney controls. Then again, all those 8 year old girls saw Han Solo killed by his son, too.

Probably doing my second viewing tomorrow, anyone seen this in IMAX 3D?

Famm_sl said:

That was a complaint/critique of mine coming out of the theater. She was a "yoda" figure. That was the entire point of her character. Little cute humanoid wise one. More of the callback/mimicry stuff.

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Well the thing is Yoda is part of an archetype that predates him, is larger than he is, and is usually present in the hero's journey stories. I guess it comes down to should the new story be something other than that?

Famm_sl said:

Probably doing my second viewing tomorrow, anyone seen this in IMAX 3D?

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Not the legit IMAX but in the common theaters imax, yes. Looks great though I wish it wasn't 3D.

Foggy_sl said:

Not the legit IMAX but in the common theaters imax, yes. Looks great though I wish it wasn't 3D.

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That's the kind I mean yeah. Might as well, first time was normal screen.

khorum_sl said:

Yep. Rey is just the latestDisney Princess.

She's basically a jewish Mulan with a lightsaber.

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Nice.

You forget it is 3D a few minutes into the movie. Pretty clear JJ only did 3D because he was forced to, not because he wanted to utilize it in any way.