SWTOR
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Like it has been explained before, the engine did not automatically make the game bad. It was the company that failed to reach the goals that it should have. Not that it's even worth trying to explain it to you, though. So go carry on with your inane broken English posts.
moontayle
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I dare you... DARE YOU... to find one post of mine saying that this engine is even close to that. Until such a time as you can find said post, kindly fuck off.
Downloaded and checked things out a bit. Right now it's nearly impossible to get anything resembling a good feel but my initial impression is that they've made some good changes here. Things need tweaking, obviously. Did a warzone and everyone was stuttering around so much that I couldn't do shit. The new armor looks are... interesting. The new Assassin ability is fucking jessu. Need to play around with it more to figure out the best use for it, but I can see all sorts of good things coming from it. Oh, and much crying from people who don't understand the mechanic.
Mr Creed
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That's a dumb complaint. Placing a quest with enough xp to give you the new max level is probably the fastest way to do it, no point in writing an elaborate UI function. That said those preliminary notes do not excite me at all. It basically refers to lvl55 changes a few times without any details, thats it. I believe a level increase is a bad idea because it removes some content from the "max level content" list and I doubt they add as much new content to replace it, lat alone more.
I've not kept up enough with the game but is a level increase needed to flush bad itemization scaling or anything like that? otherwise keeping the highest amount of content relevant would seem like the best move.
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Thats funny because in WoW or Rift or any other modern MMORPG, its the same shit. You have essentially 1-2 raid dungeon(s) with 5+ bosses you do over and over again, until the devs grace you with another patch in 4+ months adding another 5 bosses. Oh and dailies....
The point being is that this type of endgame is destined to fail regardless of the game or the studio making it.
Mr Creed
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No shit, this is a WoW clone? I didnt realize. You are right that this approach falls down, and you'd think this being 2013 and the MMO landscape littered with failed WoW clones, they would realize this and try to take another route. Especially considering that their corpse is among of the bigger ones.
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Everything you say is true. They just went the safe mode way, except it really wasn't safe, was it? The problem with these games is that they take so long to complete, that all this shit probably sounded like a good idea back in 2005 or 2006 when this game was initially conceptualized. But here we are 6- 7 yrs later and the entire scope of the mmorpg world has changed. Its like trying to predict the future. This is why you hear games like EQ next and others scrapping 2-3 iterations of the game during the design process.
Caeden
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With that in mind, I sure as fuck wouldn't give any MMO devs money. Maybe MAYBE if they could develop something for 20 million or less and get somewhere between EQ original and current EVE numbers as a target. Wasn't the original WoW for 30 million or less? Or was it 50? Aren't all these new tools supposed to make development somewhat easier if used appropriately?
Next big thing will have to be indie I think. Niche. And it's going to be by gamers for gamers. Unknowns in the dev world.
Next big thing will have to be indie I think. Niche. And it's going to be by gamers for gamers. Unknowns in the dev world.
Mr Creed
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Thing is they made this WoW clone, crashed hard, fired all their staff, had to go F2P to prevent the servers being shut down. And then they focus their effort on making it more WoWy with new levels/gear/skills in this "expansion" that with just a I admit cursory glance will make most of the current cap content obsolete? I just dont get how the team working on this game thought that would be a good move. Would have been nice if they dared to think outside the Blizzard box.
In my obviously unqualified opinion introducing more planets as lvl50 content that slowy advanced the item tiers while also making bi-monthly events similar to the rakghoul event from last year would've been better. Make it free and rely on the cash shop like a real F2P game, too. You could always tie in item shop crap with the events so it wouldnt seem to be as blatant a cash grab (sorta like GW2 but being smarter about it). Or if F2P is to stay just to sucker people into subs, make the planets cheap DLC in the 5-15 bucks range.
In my obviously unqualified opinion introducing more planets as lvl50 content that slowy advanced the item tiers while also making bi-monthly events similar to the rakghoul event from last year would've been better. Make it free and rely on the cash shop like a real F2P game, too. You could always tie in item shop crap with the events so it wouldnt seem to be as blatant a cash grab (sorta like GW2 but being smarter about it). Or if F2P is to stay just to sucker people into subs, make the planets cheap DLC in the 5-15 bucks range.
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http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/03...etely-unaffec/
According to GamesRadar's unnamed sources, BioWare San Francisco has reportedly been shut down as of today, resulting in the layoffs of 25-30 employees associated with the studio. The net impact to BioWare's existing MMO and future franchises? Absolutely zero.
The studio formerly known as EA2D was responsible for the Dragon Age Legends Facebook game and the browser-based Mirror's Edge 2D. While it was focused on developing mobile and social games, Electronic Arts found that handling development in the area was too expensive and has shut down operations.
Fans of social games will thus have good reason to be sad about this news. Fans of MMOs will also have reason to be sad about this news, but less because of its effect upon MMO development and more because it's sad when people lose their jobs. Our condolences to all those affected by this shutdown.
Source: BioWare San Francisco shuts down, employees laid off
According to GamesRadar's unnamed sources, BioWare San Francisco has reportedly been shut down as of today, resulting in the layoffs of 25-30 employees associated with the studio. The net impact to BioWare's existing MMO and future franchises? Absolutely zero.
The studio formerly known as EA2D was responsible for the Dragon Age Legends Facebook game and the browser-based Mirror's Edge 2D. While it was focused on developing mobile and social games, Electronic Arts found that handling development in the area was too expensive and has shut down operations.
Fans of social games will thus have good reason to be sad about this news. Fans of MMOs will also have reason to be sad about this news, but less because of its effect upon MMO development and more because it's sad when people lose their jobs. Our condolences to all those affected by this shutdown.
Source: BioWare San Francisco shuts down, employees laid off
Of course someone had to bring this back up from the 2nd page... aka dead games.
Well, while we're at it. They also laid off a couple EU community managers (Germany, France, UK).
Bioware acknowledged that communication might be less frequent because of that /lol(?)
At least they manage to keep themself in the media loop, I guess.
Well, while we're at it. They also laid off a couple EU community managers (Germany, France, UK).
Bioware acknowledged that communication might be less frequent because of that /lol(?)
At least they manage to keep themself in the media loop, I guess.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/03...ster-security/
SWTOR removing email as login option to bolster security
SWTOR removing email as login option to bolster security
moontayle
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The blowup over this change (which is apparently one of a few in terms of security) is fucking stupid. The head of their security team popped into the forums to address the (non-)issue and pretty much laid the smack down. One user even popped in to say that email-as-login wasn't a thing until Blizzard made people do it, and that change only prompted him to start using throwaway email accounts.
In other words... nothing to see here, move along.
In other words... nothing to see here, move along.
Lithose
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Man, going the WoW route of forced obsolesce is such a catastrophic mistake that it almost feels like they are trying to fail here. In order to make WoW's paradigm work, you need a lot of content, generated very quickly--even Blizzard hasn't been able to keep up with WoW's model.
I think of all the things WoW brought to the MMO-scape, the level jumps and resets for each tier, are by far, the worst design feature. The after effects from such a design strategy are so numerous that many people don't even think about them..but they are almost all bad.
I think of all the things WoW brought to the MMO-scape, the level jumps and resets for each tier, are by far, the worst design feature. The after effects from such a design strategy are so numerous that many people don't even think about them..but they are almost all bad.