The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

Caliane

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yeah, as many gaf point out.

Witcher 3 made in Poland. CDprojekt on STAGE for MS at E3.
Xbone not launching in Poland.

That is comical.


That map all but guarantees our service men/women wont be using an xbone either.
 

Xexx

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I wonder if that "just deal with it" guy was ever really fired from M$. Seems he was the only honest one to tell us how it would be first.
 

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On the dual shock vs Xbox controller thing, I've never understood the problem with the analog stick location
 

Noodleface

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I've never understood why on the Xbox you needed to use a football sized controller. I feel like I'm playing on the fucking Jaguar controller:

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What's funny about all of this is that I feel like no used-game sales / sharing etc is the future of the gaming/media industry and MS is just one generation ahead of the curve. However they are making it easier for future companies to trend toward that model. In the next gen sony could go always-on, no disk, no sharing etc partially thanks to MS taking the bullet now, but for today they're making bank off of MS' decision.
I disagree. I think the opposite is true: by the time the generation after the Xbone/PS4 is out, digital vendors like Steam and Amazon will be required to support the transfer of digital goods. If nothing else the recent European Court ruling means they will have to do that for Europe anyway. As more US consumers move to digital media you'll see a push for similar rights here.
 

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On the dual shock vs Xbox controller thing, I've never understood the problem with the analog stick location
The long horns of the PS controller dig into the center of your palms. Your thumbs want to naturally point straight up and down when you place your hands on the side of something. It's not the right stick that is the issue, it is the left one. The right one needs to be near the buttons so you can hit them and go back and forth.

The left stick on the PS is poorly done and they have doubled down on it. At this point I doubt they will ever change it. It's not the worst thing ever but it makes me and a lot of people hate the PS controller.
 

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586406

I dont even.... what the hell is MS doing? I mean yeah its hard to not make fun of this gigantic clusterfuck, but if they crash and burn hard we all lose. Competition is preferable to monopoly ffs.
This is the one thing im really not that surprised about. They designed all of this connection required crap and there are a ton of countries right now that have no or very limited access to XBL. The thing just flat out doesn't work if you cant connect to XBL. But dont worry, MS will be glad to sell them a 360! lol.

The only way the Xbone makes any sense at all is if you think about it as a Xbox Live media device. But until MS comes up with enough content to make someone think its worth $500 up front plus the monthly cost they are going to have trouble.
 

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On the dual shock vs Xbox controller thing, I've never understood the problem with the analog stick location
While I dont mind the location of the dual shock, its tiny! People with large hands (like me) can easily cramp up after an hour of play with their micro controller. The Xbox controller is larger, smoother and fits snugly into everything from my huge hands to my GFs small ones. I actually had to get a 3rd party controller for the PS3 due to cramps.
 

Zombie Thorne_sl

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The long horns of the PS controller dig into the center of your palms. Your thumbs want to naturally point straight up and down when you place your hands on the side of something. It's not the right stick that is the issue, it is the left one. The right one needs to be near the buttons so you can hit them and go back and forth.

The left stick on the PS is poorly done and they have doubled down on it. At this point I doubt they will ever change it. It's not the worst thing ever but it makes me and a lot of people hate the PS controller.
The past 2 nights i have been playing Killzone 2 ($3 bucks used!) with the PS3 controller and i just hate it. Its not even the sticks that bother me, its the triggers and the shape of the horns or hand grips or whatever. I just cant get the thing comfortable in my hand.

Are there any decent aftermarket solutions other than the super expensive ones? Im not paying $100 bucks for an end of life controller.
 

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I will agree that the 'shell' of the MS pad is more comfortable to my hands, but everything else on the PS3 controller is better in my opinion. I'm also curious on the aftermarket pads for PS3 and which are considered better.
 

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Honest question from a PC gamer who has a little bit of current gen console experience.

Has the current generation of consoles really hit a brick wall? I see these game demos from E3 and they don't look like a massive step up compared to what's on current gen consoles. Maybe I just don't have an eye for this stuff, or I've been playing MC too long.
 

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Maybe I just have gigantic hands, but I find even the XBox 360 controller to be too small. I tend to have to still give it a "crab" style grip, which starts to become annoying/painful after an hour or so. The original XBox's giant controller was about the best controller I've ever felt. The giant Sega Genesis controllers were probably a close second.
 

Xarpolis

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Has the current generation of consoles really hit a brick wall? I see these game demos from E3 and they don't look like a massive step up compared to what's on current gen consoles.
Every generation of consoles does this. The "entry level" game is just a little bit better than the "end of life" games from the previous generation. Then as the system ages and programming techniques and graphical engines get better, the quality looks much better.

Then this system is at its end, and the new system can take over where it left off with even stronger hardware and such. It's just a viscous circle.

The NES to SNES jump was big due to it going from 8 bit to 16 bit. Then SNES to Playstation 1 was big because that jumped up to 32 bit. PS2 jumped up to a 128 bit processor which really rounded character shapes out. PS3 is also 128 bit. The difference is that graphics processors have gotten much stronger. On top of that, the storage media used for games jumped from DVD (roughly 9 gigs for a factory pressed disk) up to Blu-Ray (Somewhere between 50 and 60 gigs for a factory pressed disk). That's a LOT of storage for additional graphics. You aren't limited by space nearly as much as you were with a DVD.

Playstation 4 is jumping up to 256 bit, but the GPU is getting much stronger as well. So it's only a matter of time before we start seeing truly spectacular games that really show off the hardware's power.
 

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Honest question from a PC gamer who has a little bit of current gen console experience.

Has the current generation of consoles really hit a brick wall? I see these game demos from E3 and they don't look like a massive step up compared to what's on current gen consoles. Maybe I just don't have an eye for this stuff, or I've been playing MC too long.
They aren't that big of a jump. I think technology in general has kind of hit a wall - at some point it will be hard to make things look any better without going into ultra realistic and then you sort of hit the uncanny valley. Obviously you can do more but at some point it isn't cost effective - they obviously didn't want to spend $1000 on hardware in each console this go around, then have to sell it for $600 and still take a huge loss.

It looks like the PS4 was more interested in getting their form factor smaller, with less heat and power. It's tiny compared to the last generation or new Xbox.