The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

Amazon sent me an email this morning about an updated release date for Uncharted 4: A Thief's End.

Estimated arrival date: March 31, 2016.

Paypal? lulz Anyone who uses paypal to begin with is an asshat. Credit Cards provide superior support, better rewards, have a better relation with the companies business departments, and offer complete protection.

Sorry that's not standard stuff for Visa, American express, etc. Trust me they do not want to lose a credit cards business

A) Credit Cards do not work like paypal. They don't charge back immediately, they do an investigation with the company themselves.

Sorry you are incorrect. Of the many memberships I have in the world. Airline, Amazon, Itunes, Gym, Grocery, Gas, even fucking starbucks. My account will not get banned when a credit card company proves negligence.

So you saying it is common practice is LOL


As a postnote, I've had both of my accounts broken into. My Xbox live account was compromised during the time they got hacked, my PS4 account same thing.
In both cases my Credit card worked with them, and resolved the issue. There was no banning at all

No need go to any Storefront's terms of service and they have a listing for Chargebacks

From Amazon

Chargebacks
A chargeback occurs when a cardholder contacts their bank to dispute the charge for an order placed on Amazon.com. Chargebacks are also known as "charge disputes" and they can be filed for a variety of reasons, including unauthorized use of the credit card.

As outlined in our agreement with you:

You are responsible for chargebacks filed for service-related reasons, such as non-receipt of the item, against your account.
Amazon Payments is responsible for any payment-related fraud chargebacks, such as stolen credit cards or other payment fraud attempts.

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There all the same...

You know how much Identity theft goes on in the world? If companies banned every membership that was comprimised they would be killing there profit margin. The whole reason for memberships is for you to continue doing business with them...

You keep saying that's standard practice because of Sony, but it clearly is not.

Everything has a membership now, and they all have a charge back section you can read.

Sony should be doing the same... working with the customer until there's a satisfactory resolution

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No, that is what your Credit Card company does now for you. You think Visa is dealing with level 1 customer service?

Wish I could dig up the thread when the PS4/Xbox live hacking were going on around 2 years ago. My account was compromised, Visa worked with them, and there was no banning. Under your guidelines My sony account should be no longer available.

I didn't work with Sony at all, Visa did.

And yet, if you google "PSN Chargeback" you will see everyone that had their CC company issue a chargeback to Sony was banned.

I don't care what your other memberships say there are google searches dating back to 2010 and probably before that listing this.

Even if that is true, and I escaped the all mighty Sony banning.

That is not common practice for most memberships in the world like Steveo is claiming.


Like I said it doesn't even make sense from a companies perspective to even do that. The whole reason for memberships is to have you locked into buying from them...

I think what more than likely happened was you got lumped into an area where the account hacks were due to sony's negligence (unless I'm remembering wrong), whereas this hack was because the user used a shitty password. Yours was a known exception to the rule and they worked it out, whereas I believe in their TOS (I can't look it up, but others have quoted it) it specifically says if you chargeback they will ban your account.

Disputing a transaction that a vendor sees as legitimate will typically result in you being banned

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And it will not. You are not even the one doing the disputing it's your credit card company. Both vendor and credit card companies have a vested interest in keeping your business.


You are saying what Sony is doing in the world is common practice for every company is wrong.

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I think what more than likely happened was you got lumped into an area where the account hacks were due to sony's negligence (unless I'm remembering wrong), whereas this hack was because the user used a shitty password. Yours was a known exception to the rule and they worked it out, whereas I believe in their TOS (I can't look it up, but others have quoted it) it specifically says if you chargeback they will ban your account.

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You are getting off on a Tagent. Obviously, by your own statements you have proven to yourself that Sony has some strange policies.
Since I can't see what my credit card company did when talking to Sony we can only guess what happened during that time.

We are arguing that because Sony does something doesn't meen that is the standard in the world right now

For those thinking of getting an xbone, looks like MS will be including a free controller assuming the deal wins the "'march madness" event

Microsoft Store

I've charged back plenty of times and never got banned. I've done it to Blizzard with no problems. The key is if you are right or wrong, companies don't go around banning people because they charge back.

Haven't we fucking learned by now that every time one of these stories pops up there is ALWAYS more to the story? I don't trust these stories on reddit or any other place because it always ends up that the person leaves out important information. Also why the fuck do people use paypal? Do they also cash their checks at gas stations?

Also why the fuck do people use paypal?

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No fucking clue, probly bad credit etc. Even if I'm forced to use paypal for my MMA sub I still charge it back to my credit card.

Credit cards give insane bonuses, and superior support. Using paypal is as bad as using cash.

PS4's next update brings Suspend for games, 60fps Share Play

Next Ps4 update looks bangin'! 60 FPS share play, Suspend games, and resume right back into them like nothing happened? sweet!