The Elder Scrolls Online

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
You would think that after that leaked video and the shitstorm that followed, they would release a new video of basically the same thing after the "animation pass". I'm getting that same feeling of bs that I did with the TOR fanbois. Then again I really enjoyed my time in TOR, as short as it was.
No shit. There never WAS an animation pass. The animations still look like shit. And they have not changed. AT ALL. I thought SWTOR PR was bad. These guys are taking it to a whole new level of cover pass.
 

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
Obviously, no one has seen the end game, and some have suspicions that anything in the game past level 20 or so is even done. That said, they are planning a lot for end game:

-High level open and instanced dungeons
-"adventure zones" basically outdoor raid areas
-Cyrodiil pvp area - supposedly extremely large with keeps, towns, mines, towers capturable, and with pve hubs and dungeons within.
-Once you hit 50 in your faction, you can adventure in the other faction content (instanced so you won't see enemy PCs, and set to +50 level content/rewards)
-Quests/exploring to gain faction/skill lines from things like mage guild.

Also, don't forget crafting, gathering, and FISHING! Personally, I'm just hoping the pvp is something like DAOC. I can get lost for years in a good rvr zone as long as they do advancement right. I think they said there will be rvr skill lines that you can improve through something like realm points in daoc.
You sound like a billboard again.
 

Azrayne

Irenicus did nothing wrong
2,161
787
MMO's don't really need a whole lot of PR themselves, the fans desperate for a new game that will make them feel the way their first MMO did will do it for them. It's like a particularly sad joke of some kind, but I can't figure out the punchline.
 
MMO's don't really need a whole lot of PR themselves, the fans desperate for a new game that will make them feel the way their first MMO did will do it for them. It's like a particularly sad joke of some kind, but I can't figure out the punchline.
The only punchline anymore with these new MMOs is being punched in the balls. Again.
 

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
I just went on there and posted a comment, and it was deleted.

This guy has an agenda.
 

Denaut

Trump's Staff
2,739
1,279
No shit. There never WAS an animation pass. The animations still look like shit. And they have not changed. AT ALL. I thought SWTOR PR was bad. These guys are taking it to a whole new level of cover pass.
The idea of a late animation pass is a bit silly. Art, especially animations, are one of the most expensive and time consuming parts of an MMO and there is no way they have the time to go back and spend those precious resources on things that are done when there is surely more work left they have time to reasonably finish.

What does get late passes art side is usually a bit of world building and maybe some effects. Nothing major usually though as patching art is expensive.
 

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
Here was my post that got deleted.

"Look here. I have posted around various gaming forums for years, and I can assure you that this entire PR post is just that. I came here once to watch a video on what was leaked. Whether that was planned or not, I have no idea. While ZO was trying to take it down everywhere to protect their box sales, it stayed up here. Up until now, I thought this site was about coverage, regardless of repercussions. You could have had a great site here. But you just screwed it's integrity by posting this little viral marketing campaign from a "beta tester" that is nothing of the sort. They kind of gave it away when they kept saying "We" all the time when it came to releasing more information. Next time they shouldn't try so hard to be that transparent. And next time, you shouldn't release garbage like this because the reason why your site is in existence in the first place is because of actual coverage aside from the PR garbage consumers are given 6 ways from Sunday. Grow up."
 

K13R

Bronze Knight of the Realm
285
9
Classic Pump and Dump MMO going for Box Sells riding off the back of a well known IP... hmm where I have I seen this before? oh right it's the same guys that did the exact same thing it in the last MMO.
 

Grim1

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
4,918
6,929
Hmm, after reading the comments by the tester and the BetaCake mods, I'm not sure I can agree with UT and the rest of the pilers on. It may be a shill job but they come off as pretty legit. Not sure why BetaCake would want to lie about these things.

I don't know whats going on behind the scenes though, so who knows? I do know that I haven't seen anything to warrant the kind of hyperbolic hate the cool kids are spouting. So I'll wait until more info is released before passing judgement.

I haven't seen anything about this game that indicates it is great, or a failure. Just conjecture and sandy pussies.
 

Draegan_sl

2 Minutes Hate
10,034
3
It kind of surprises me that a place like betacake deletes comments. Maybe it's a site owned and ran by a collection of devs. /tinfoilhat
 

Grim1

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
4,918
6,929
Yeah, I was wondering that too actually. I assumed they were independent, they would lose a lot of cred if they weren't.

Then again maybe they are tired of the herd mentality that seems to have taken over in regards to TESO and WildStar. Rationality seems to have been lost in both of those games by the fans and the detractors. Especially given the total lack of real info about those games.
 

Draegan_sl

2 Minutes Hate
10,034
3
They shouldn't care about people or comments on that site.
Also Wildstar has tons of real info about the game. As much as you could expect with a game that has an NDA. Which I bet they drop in a few months.
 

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
It kind of surprises me that a place like betacake deletes comments. Maybe it's a site owned and ran by a collection of devs. /tinfoilhat
It totally is. No tinfoil about it. Whether it is owned and operated by a developer or company remains to be seen, but they sure as hell are in the back pockets of the developers for which they "cake". It's fairly obvious after this gimmick tester post.

Who owns the domain ?
 

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
It totally is. No tinfoil about it. Whether it is owned and operated by a developer or company remains to be seen, but they sure as hell are in the back pockets of the developers for which they "cake". It's fairly obvious after this gimmick tester post.

Who owns the domain ?
So what does it mean when it's private and by proxy? I have no clue, but first impressions leads me to think they are hiding the admin contact information.

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration[email protected]/* <![CDATA[ */!function(t,e,r,n,c,a,p){try{t=document.currentScript||function(){for(t=document.getElementsByTagName('script'),e=t.length;e--;)if(t[e].getAttribute('data-cfhash'))return t[e]}();if(t&&(c=t.previousSibling:emoji_nose:{p=t.parentNode;if(a=c.getAttribute('data-cfemail':emoji_nose:{for(e='',r='0x'+a.substr(0,2)|0,n=2;a.length-n;n+=2)e+='%'+('0'+('0x'+a.substr(n,2)^r).toString(16:emoji_nose:.slice(-2);p.replaceChild(document.createTextNode(decodeURIComponent(e:emoji_nose:,c)}p.removeChild(t)}}catch(u){}}()/* ]]> */
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
 

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
/\ Ok didn't know.

"TLDR: The game is in early beta and exceeding expectations. The vast majority of testers are pretty happy and ZOS has been very open to criticism and seem to be on the right track. I will gladly shit all over this game if its not going to meet expectations. Right now, it is exceeding expectations."

This idiot is such a shill it is amazing. The douche even banned a guy and then had to write something about it.

Fuck... that... site.

Thanks again Draegan for having a place we can go without this censorship bullshit being paid off by publishers for web hits. Your ethics are awesome, and I will promote this site every chance I get. Gamers are longing for a good place to post real opinions, call out the bullshit, and not have grassroots take hold.

Keep up the good work.
 

Utnayan

F16 patrolling Rajaah until he plays DS3
<Gold Donor>
16,848
14,228
Now this is supposedly from a "tester". Then I will post a reply from this assclown who runs the site.

A couple words from thetesterwho answered your TESO questions:
[Q: What classes and races are available in beta? Especially aside from the already revealed ones?

A: Right now its Daggerfall Convenent only. Orcs, Brentons and redguard. Again,weare in very early beta the other starter zones / areas are not implemented yet. Dragon Knight, Mage, Templar are playable. Nightblades are internal only and should hit general beta next build.

WE. Not I, not "myself", not me, but "We" are in very early beta. And how the fuck would a tester know what's in internal? OOPS! Maybe when they have a grassroots marketing team they should learn how to edit that shit. Or at the very least, this betacake site which claims to be nothing but the leaks. (Hello Viral bullshit) When he was called out on the "We" portion, this is what this moron had to say.

I can't find that anywhere but in your comment. You're just making stuff up.

Btw. You're banned.
rolleyes.png


What a fuckstick.
 

spronk

FPS noob
23,856
29,112
i dunno why some of you care so much, we all know EXACTLY how teso is going to play out. Its going to sell 2m+ copies no matter what early reviews are, because everyone fucking loves skyrim. Nobody on here will play longer than 3 months, because there will be shit to do in endgame - leveling will be fun, but pretty much wow with a Elder Scrolls skin.

A year after launch the game will be down to 100k or less players and this thread will never get a single post. 2 years later an xpac will come out, it'll suck, and then a year or two later the game will be shut down so as not to fuck with Elder Scrolls 6. Zenimax will be working on their Fallout MMO because no matter how much they spent on TESO, they will make tons of money because MMO players are stupid as fuck with their money.
 

Grim1

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
4,918
6,929
Yep you nailed, except for the shutting down part.

Even crappy mmo's make money and rarely shut down. Even if TESO is a disaster it will still pull in new players because of the IP and keep making money for years to come. It won't get WoW numbers but as all the other mmos have proven, you don't need WoW numbers to be successful in a business sense.