The Expanse

So is this thing good or not? Always someone saying it’s awesome then dropping memes about its woke and girl power?

What is its sifi ranking? From Earth Final Conflict and Andromeda to Babylon 5 and DS9 where it be?

It's Sci-Fi that tries to stay somewhat grounded in realism and the plot revolves heavily around two major superpowers vying for control of the solar system with a bench of exploited plebs (belters - people that basically live in very low G environments like the asteroids/outer solar system) caught in the middle.

The last two seasons really aren't that massive a departure from the books except for the fates of a couple characters and how they melded some different characters into existing characters (which is a problem GoT had as well - it's easy to have a cast of thousands in a book because you aren't paying those people a salary). Most of the main story beats and plot lines are the same.

watch 3 seasons

then read all the books

thats the best way to do The Expanse

the guy playing Amos and one of the showrunners/authors has a podcast, Ty and That Guy, and its pretty hilarious too

I watched all the seasons and bought the audio books to finish up the series. The audiobooks are really, really well done. Highly recommend.

I hope they make the last three seasons. Their books were pretty good, the 7th had an 'Empire Strikes Back' feel to it.

Unless that delay is 20+ years, they're going to have to artificially age them up OR accelerate the Laconia timeline

Cybsled said:

Unless that delay is 20+ years, they're going to have to artificially age them up OR accelerate the Laconia timeline

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oh noes, not a small amount of makeup.

So count me in as someone whos not a fan of Holden. Anyhow watching an episode of Amos podcast which also has Holden on where they are talking about Carpenters The Thing. Right off the bat you learn that Holden loves Kurt Russel and Carpenter but has never seen The Thing, and has no clue what its about. Holden hate intensifies.

end of the day if the show was moving merch for amazon they would have kept it going, its not a big shock that the show kept losing viewers season to season so it made sense to end. contracts start getting ridiculously expensive past season 5 of any show. The show was just boring the last 2 seasons so there's nothing to suggest it would have suddenly improved in quality if they finished the last 3 books, and its nearly impossible to attract new viewers nowadays to shows that go on forever.

Thats why the new thing is just constantly spinning shit off, why Walking Dead has like 5 spinoffs all resetting with season 1, Narcos kept spinning stuff off, Showtime spins off their crime shows, etc.

I guess you could argue they could film books 7-9 as a new series, The Expanse II or whatever, with even a new cast but ... why bother? There are a million other scifi IPs you could start fresh with and be even more popular like Commonwealth, Culture, on and on.

spronk said:

I guess you could argue they could film books 7-9 as a new series, The Expanse II or whatever, with even a new cast but ... why bother? There are a million other scifi IPs you could start fresh with and be even more popular like Commonwealth, Culture, on and on.

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Why bother? The team working on The Expanse had a track record of faithfully converting the books, which is extremely rare. That alone is a huge plus over spending money on another IP, with different writers/producers.

I thought the problems with season 5 & 6 had mostly to do with the books themselves and the focus on Naomi, who was the worst actor on the show. Additionally, book readers said Philip was annoying in print too.

Also, weren't the last set of books supposed to be as good as the first books?