The Girls Who Broke Your Heart Thread

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Antarius_sl said:
I have refused to message a single woman over the age of 30. Personally, I think that's a good "rule" to go by. If a woman didn't think I was good enough for her when she was getting gangbanged by 12 black dudes in a sorority, and the type of woman that rejected going with me to prom because I wasn't "cool" enough, she isn't good enough to get 50% of my retirement. And even anything close to 30 still makes me very leery. Unless she's still hot and I can find evidence that her mom is still hot at 50+, I'm just not interested. It's pretty scary how fast the decline is for most women between 28 and 32.

Oh god, I've become the stereotypical "jaded former nice guy" THANKS WOMEN.
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People will hate on you for it, but you're absolutely right in a 'take the microscope and look at reality as close as possible' sense.

To put it in the most objective terms possible, the analyses provided by RP are correct. What we hear from women 30+ are euphemisms to what you described: 'I've matured.' 'My priorities have changed.' 'I'm looking for a real life partner.' Et al.

And those phrases obfuscate what's really going on bio-mechanically, even psychologically. The fact is her value is going down rapidly, her physical value, which is really all there is in terms of coitus and relationships.

Don't do it. I was a nice guy once too. Just play them. Spin the plates. It works much better because you can still bang them, kick them out, and play videogames.
 
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...die lonely, or at best not bring a your prime genes into this world. The older you get the more stem cells in your testes are damaged. Not only women's health and gonads decline with age.
 
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Izo_sl said:
...die lonely, or at best not bring a your prime genes into this world. The older you get the more stem cells in your testes are damaged. Not only women's health and gonads decline with age.
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That's mostly crap. Technically it's true, but it doesn't matter much for men. If you really care about passing on genes, just go to a sperm bank (but make sure you pick the right state).

The 'die lonely' trope is even more bullshit fed to us. Die happy, fat, traveling the world, and being able to stick it in any almost any girl you want, rather than a parasitic hag wife? Yes please.
 
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Alimony is 150$/month/kid here. It's sad you view women as parasites and whatnot just because your social system is bullshit.
 
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It's just not worth it. There's no reason to get married in the traditional sense whatsoever, unless youactually want to raise children. Even if that's your real intent (and good for you, if it is, seriously), then I would adopt. If you really want to pass on genesand raise those genes, then go for a very conservative, homely wife, a foreign woman, or surrogate pregnancy.

Traditional marriage to a modern, attractive American woman just isn't worth it when so many better options are available. (It may be different in Canada, I don't know.)
 
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That's even more dumb. Kids outside of marriage, should there a split, results in an even bigger mess financially and custodially speaking.
 
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Antarius_sl said:
I have refused to message a single woman over the age of 30. Personally, I think that's a good "rule" to go by. If a woman didn't think I was good enough for her when she was getting gangbanged by 12 black dudes in a sorority, and the type of woman that rejected going with me to prom because I wasn't "cool" enough, she isn't good enough to get 50% of my retirement. And even anything close to 30 still makes me very leery. Unless she's still hot and I can find evidence that her mom is still hot at 50+, I'm just not interested. It's pretty scary how fast the decline is for most women between 28 and 32.

Oh god, I've become the stereotypical "jaded former nice guy" THANKS WOMEN.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don't Want You Anymore.

In your twenties you barely gave me the time of day. Meanwhile you were jumping in bed with any guy with a neck tattoo or a prison record. Why would I date you? I know where you've been, and I hope you've been tested. From the trail of bad boys and the mistreatment you tolerated, no, invited into your life and seeing all the drama you created for yourself, I can only conclude that you don't need a nice guy, you need therapy! I'm a simple guy and like my life uncomplicated. You are the human embodiment of drama and chaos, I'd have to be crazier than, well. YOU to take on your baggage.
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Men Are Not Happy

About once every month or two, there's a post somewhere on Reddit, by a woman, saying something like, "My boyfriend suddenly started doing Red Pill stuff and now I want out," followed by 4-6 paragraphs explaining how her boyfriend is now a controlling, abusive asshole who works out and wants sex (because these traits are, of course, very, very unique to The Red Pill, and any guy who exhibits them obviously went online, found us, and we ruined him). These threads get seized upon by our detractors, who eagerly point out: "See? See!? The Red Pill doesn't 'work' ! It just ends relationships and turns guys into assholes!"

Independent of what is and is not actually "Red Pill behavior," situations like these are based a bad assumption. Simply put, in examples like this, the lamenting woman has presupposed that prior to her man's "changes", their relationship was actually good, and he was actually happy. Then he ruined everything by reading some bullshit online that told him how his relationship ought to be, then trying to implement it.

This begs the question: If the relationship was fine before the boyfriend went all Red Pill on his woman, why is he trying to change things? Why did he go on the internet and seek out the manosphere? If he's happy with his relationship the way it is, why is he trying to find ways to improve his sex life and become more assertive? (All of this, of course, assumes that a) the stories presented on Reddit are true; and b) the man actually sought out The Red Pill and didn't just stop kissing his girlfriend's ass for any number of other reasons.)

The Red Pill is here because men aren't happy. They don't want to be sweet and sensitive and do things for women all day long and be the "perfect boyfriend," while having subpar sex once every six weeks, paying out the ass for expensive dates and gifts, sacrificing personal time, and getting bitched at and threatened with a break-up if any of this perfect behavior ever dips slightly. They don't want to give backrubs and footrubs, stay at home one weekend a month while their women have a night out with the girls, get disrespected and talked about behind their backs, get cheated on (but just harmless, meaningless mistakes that don't really count!), and get berated when they push back against any of this. They don't want to let women move in, rent-free, and get pressured to buy a ring for a four-digit number of dollars and tie their finances to someone who makes less than half as much money, just because they've been "dating awhile" and "it's time" and they're "supposed to."

Sure, everything's hunky-dory for these girlfriends, but for the men, everything is NOT happy. Everything is NOT going well. And men are sick of it.

When a 28-year-old man with an entitled bitch of a girlfriend of 5 years stumbles across the Red Pill, he reads stories about men not so much older than he is who don't have or want girlfriends. They don't need a girlfriend because they have four or five women fucking their brains out on a regular basis outside of a relationship. They barely spend a cent on dates or activities. They barely lift a finger to impress women. But girls can't seem to get enough of them.

And what these men do seems so simple. Work out, focus on your career, practice your social skills and get confident, develop useful skills and interesting hobbies - essentially, quit wasting time. Read non-fiction instead of fiction, watch less TV, play less video games, quit jerking off to porn, spend that time doing something that makes you physically, mentally, or socially better. The Red Pill tells men that their time is valuable, and to use it well. Hand in hand with that, The Red Pill tells men that since their time is their most valuable resource, quit wasting it on women when you're not getting something of equal value in return. If your girlfriend is ugly, sexually ungenerous, lazy, or just an entitled bitch that expects you to do all kinds of crap for her just to maintain the pleasure of having a girlfriend, is it really worth all of the time and energy you expend? When you could be doing something that actually improves your life?

The Red Pill exists because many men aren't happy. Because these relationships that are allegedly "just fine" are very much NOT just fine. Because men are giving so much to their women and getting so little, with the assumption that merely existing - merely being a presence in the man's life - is all a woman needs to do to become his highest priority. That men should be falling over themselves getting in line for the right to say "I have a girlfriend," and nothing more. Men are sick of this.

Guys in the "my man went Red Pill and ruined our relationship" Reddit posts probably aren't actually going to internet sites to get an instruction manual for how to piss off their girlfriends. They're just normal guys who know in the pit of their stomach that something is wrong - that they're wasting their lives, and that they're not happy. It's not their girlfriends' fault, it's theirs. And they decide one day, for whatever reason, to try to take control of their lives, of their relationships, and build something they're actually proud of. And steps 1 and 2 of that process involve asserting yourself and living the way you want, and expecting the people with whom you associate (e.g., your woman) to add value to your life equal to the value you're expending. The rest of the world shorthands that behavior as "being an asshole," and "ruining relationships." How sad is that? Honestly and confidently pursuing the life you want, and expecting others to hold up their end of a relationship is the new Hitler.
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since their time is their most valuable resource, quit wasting it on women when you're not getting something of equal value in return.
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I think this is really all that needs to be said, not just on relationships but most things in life. Not just for men but for women as well. If you're not getting out what you want from an investment, or can see a probable future where you do, then it's on you for continuing to invest in it. unfortunately, loss aversion is a powerful thing.
 
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Some salty fucks out there. There are plenty of hot, attractive, good/nice girls out there 28-32. Just don't be a fucking loser. I'm not saying red pill shit, but my god go to the fucking gym, have a career, a house, a decent car, and some fucking standards.

I was there once too after my marriage ended. Walked out on basically a cheater who I realized way too late had serious daddy issues. I hated women for a year. Would go out, fuck them, and leave them. They were and are whores. At least for me, that shit got hollow...girls like that are TOO easy. I want someone that can keep me on my toes and knows her way around a career and domestication.
 
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Men Are Not Happy
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This is bullshit for so many reasons.

The entire premise of this dumbshit horsefuckery is that all women force men to do things for them 24/7 and the men are all pussy whipped and docile and have lost their masculinity, and that's the only type of women you can find these days.

Never in a relationship if I tried to be "the perfect boyfriend," I AM sweet and sensitive, and I've never been with someone who only wants to have sex "every six weeks." I've never had a woman who expected expensive dates or gifts, either, it's always been pretty much 50/50. This cum-soaked article assumes a male is dumb enough to stay in a relationship where someone would treat him like this. Do you really think this is any kind of norm? Do you seriously think all males are in abusive relationships like the one proposed here? I don't know anyone who is in a relationship like this.

As to the premise of the next part: "Start working out, stop playing video games, get interesting hobbies." Well, holy shit, what a revelation. WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO THAT? NO WAY!" "I can't believe these 9/10 women I want to fuck aren't interested in my LARPing or when I go into detail about World of Warcraft." This article reads like it was written for dumbfuck aspies who don't understand why women think they're creepy. Ironically you can tell them this shit until you're blue in the face, it's not like they're going to suddenly become interesting to women. "Dump your girlfriend if she's entitled and doesn't give back to you." GROUNDBREAKING DATING INFOS! This is a true honeypot of exciting information!

"They're just normal guys who know in the pit of their stomach something is wrong." Lulz. If you're in a relationship where your other half is demanding everything from you, you don't know that "in the pit of your stomach," you know it outright, and you would have figured it out a long time ago if you're not a retard and/or an aspie.

Jesus fucking christ an article for fucking losers.

I'm not trying to be a dick, your article is just inane. It seems like that whole movement is based on unattractive nerds trying to get women way the fuck out of their league, who won't settle for fellow nerd women.

And just to prove I'm not one of the Fedora tipping crowd, a few pics of me. Yeah, I got today's date wrong.

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Caeden_sl said:
Some salty fucks out there. There are plenty of hot, attractive, good/nice girls out there 28-32. Just don't be a fucking loser. I'm not saying red pill shit, but my god go to the fucking gym, have a career, a house, a decent car, and some fucking standards.

I was there once too after my marriage ended. Walked out on basically a cheater who I realized way too late had serious daddy issues. I hated women for a year. Would go out, fuck them, and leave them. They were and are whores. At least for me, that shit got hollow...girls like that are TOO easy. I want someone that can keep me on my toes and knows her way around a career and domestication.
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I'm in my 30's (will be 35 very soon) and I don't want women younger than 26-27. That doesn't mean I don't mess around with younger ones on occasion, but I'm in "find a relationship" mode right now. Also, I'm moving out of state next year, so I'm sort of holding off on that.

My last long term relationship was with...HORROR...a 40 year old! Eew, no way!

The last woman I dated was 32 (and hot, if a bit too skinny,) but was a nutcase. Detailed a few pages ago.

I'm already set on where I'm moving next year, and I started talking to a few women on OKC in the area I'm going to. A 36 year old (EEW GROSS SHE'S OLD AND MUST HAVE PROBLEMS) personal trainer wants to go out to dinner with me when I visit the area in October. She's got a beautiful face, big boobs, a big ass, and she likes French movies, just like I do.

Going back to the Okcupid discussion on the previous page where the guy exchanged a ton of messages:

I'm new to online dating (only tried it for the first time this year,) but I've got phone numbers and Facebook pages within the first five to ten messages with every one of the women I've eventually gone out with. I never talk about sex or any lewd or weird shit, either. These weren't "hook ups" or casual sex type deals, but real dates. The only one that required more work was earlier this year I randomly asked a woman out to dinner in Canada while I was on vacation there (I live in the U.S., but wanted some company one night,) and I had to convince her I wasn't a weirdo / and/or looking for sex. I ended up taking her out for dinner, and she gave me a tour of the city for almost five hours. We're still friends on Facebook. BUT RED PILL MAN, YOU GOT TAKEN FOR A RIDE.
 
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