The Last of Us

While I cringed at the gay touching shit, I actually felt something for these characters. That's good writing.

Also I'm now gay.

All I could think of was how much are they paying Swanson to put his mouth on another dudes mouth. God damn disgusting and as already said, they took it way too far.

What percent of the audience is truly comfortable seeing men being intimate with each other? Most women don’t even want to see that shit.

Chersk said:

All I could think of was how much are they paying Swanson to put his mouth on another dudes mouth. God damn disgusting and as already said, they took it way too far.

What percent of the audience is truly comfortable seeing men being intimate with each other? Most women don’t even want to see that shit.

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It's OK to be disgusted by something and also appreciate it. Art is cool like that.

I don't think they went too far. If I thought like that by that logic I'd never get to see gratuitous nudity and violence in a show.

lot of things broke my disbelief (yeah I know…), obviously not far from a population center yet untouched for years on end. Even presumably throwing short wave radio broadcast out to to the world to the point randoms can find them. little things go far on that type of shit to not feel like the walking dead, but whatever. Utopia gonna utopia.

surprised that gets a pass here but I’m pretty desperate for anything relatively good lately.

They can do a lot with Ellie, probably hard to convey annoying game prop mechanic into real life, definitely over shot it so far. I wonder an alternate universe where Ellen page actually plays this role…

The whole eco location thing not really discussed or I just missed that part early on.

I thought the episode was fantastic, even if it was gross watching Ron Swanson make out.

I'm pretty convinced from the pacing so far that Season 1 is going to cover the entire first game. Season 2 will be the second game (which will take a lot of work to make good).

Season is 9 episodes:

1 - Intro/Sarah dying/Getting to Ellie in the present
2 - Getting Ellie to the capitol/Tess dying
3 - Bill's Town

Even Picard only sees 1 season.

Kiroy said:

This is great - ep 3 was about as good as it gets for the gay propaganda relationship - really it was about as silly as him grabbing a boat to use as a trailer, vs you know, getting a trailer. Or him being a serious survivalist who obviously studied and prepared for years if not decades, standing in the middle of the road with no cover to fend off raiders who were luckily more retarded them him. Real walking dead vibes in that 3 minutes. Other than that this is some quality tv.

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That scene with him standing in the middle of the road had me yelling at the TV. All the guy needed was a long rifle with a scope and he could have played duck hunt with those raiders. I am thinking that scene was more about him being "The man" of the relationship and showing that he protects at all costs. The piano scene was what made the episode work. I also thought it was going to be a sweet moment followed by a thud and some blood flow.

Sanrith Descartes said:

Pps.. this episode actually had me thinking how I would react in the same situation. I probably would just be trusting of no one and end up alone until the inevitable loneliness brought me to a depressing end. Pretty dark actually. And this is how I know it was good television, it got me thinking beyond the show.

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That is the truth and to a degree a very real and sad aspect of that kind of situation. We have a structure of society that helps to protect us from people who will do harm if left unchecked. Since we know this, we are much more easily able to trust people initially because society has our back. What happens when that structure collapses? I disagree with you. I think you would feel the need to trust people because you would most likely die alone a lot faster. The episode was a good episode but lacked the realism of how raiders would have worked. He could have stopped some small bands but eventually he would have run into the smarter groups that expected traps to exist and would work the system out.

Numbers are the only way you really survive beyond 1 year so you have to be able to trust a person. Now that does not mean that it will work out. Psychopaths would have the same chance of surviving and perhaps even a better chance as morale means little to them. The law no longer protects the decision. Trust would have to be earned a lot more. Having the ability to read people with just a few words and gestures would go a long way towards a person's ability to survive around those who would hit you on the back of the head while you played a piano.

I thought that was why clickers clicked? That was the echo location system. Did I misunderstand that?

Sanrith Descartes said:

There is a decent amount of fiction literature that deals with this. How the loneliness eventually chips away at the defense mechanisms to not trust others. Early Walking Dead pretty much had everyone trusting everyone who wasn't a walker at first sight out of desperation to survive.

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I think it helps having a common enemy. A normal pandemic would not have that kind of link. Fiction has that advantage where only a military invasion could have a similar feel.