The Legend of Vox Machina

i think initially taliesin as percy was pretty unbearable, but i softened up on him during the briarwood arc. i think part of it was that he was always trying to be the main character and the briarwood arc gave him enough attention that even after the arc, he was satiated. but yes, he is CLEARLY the most emotionally damaged person in the group

wormie said:

All this shit you guys are discussing about what this is based on is making my fantasy boner go limp when thinking of the future episodes and direction of the show.

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Maybe this will help a little then...

The Briarwoods are in my top 10 all time villains. They rank right up there with John Doe from Se7en, Anton Chigurh, Admiral Thrawn version from the Zahn books, etc. I mean truly evil sons of bitches that don't pull punches. If the writers of the show did them any justice they will more than overshadow the awfulness that is Taliesin Jaffe and his mental illnesses in animated form. Plus, Percy may be the focus of the story arc, but many many of the best moments are going to come from the other cast members if they kept certain key moments from the campaign.

wormie said:

Thats a pretty high pedestal. Let's hope the trannies don't bring it down too much.

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Yeah, and they've already chipped away a bit at it, but we'll see what happens. I mean, in the original campaign, the invitation Delilah extends to Percy isn't JUST to come to Whitestone and visit his hometown. She actually invited him to come see his FAMILY.... I mean DAMN!

Kaines said:

Maybe this will help a little then...

The Briarwoods are in my top 10 all time villains. They rank right up there with John Doe from Se7en, Anton Chigurh, Admiral Thrawn version from the Zahn books, etc. I mean truly evil sons of bitches that don't pull punches. If the writers of the show did them any justice they will more than overshadow the awfulness that is Taliesin Jaffe and his mental illnesses in animated form. Plus, Percy may be the focus of the story arc, but many many of the best moments are going to come from the other cast members if they kept certain key moments from the campaign.

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Scanbo!

Amod please close this thread prematurely. Giggity.

wormie said:

All this shit you guys are discussing about what this is based on is making my fantasy boner go limp when thinking of the future episodes and direction of the show.

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yeah, there's a reason why they always knew they'd be doing the briarwood arc. the first two episodes are decent, but i think they are the weakest because they were jamming too much into too short a time frame. the biggest critiques (from both critics and the cast themselves) is that they are taking SOOOOOOO much material and condensing it into 30 minutes. at the table, they can take a 5 hour episode to just do some shopping and have a spa day, but that doesn't work in an actual show. on top of that you have that 5 hours to naturally move through a lot of emotion but in a single episode they move EXTREMELY quickly from moment to moment and it can make these guys come across as just sociopaths, making jokes while they are standing right next to a bunch of mutilated villagers.

i think the problem is that it takes a moment to figure out how to be true to these characters while stilling being able to cut a lot of moments that make these guys who they are. a lot of people who never watched the stream, for example, HATE scanlan in the cartoon and i totally get why, even though sam is one of my favorites.

j00t said:

But campaign 2 really amped up the "WE ARE LGBTQ ALLIES AND SO IS TALDOREI!" even going so far as to retconning that lady kima and alurra are married. These are characters that the mighty Nein have JUST met and have no particular interest in, but because they were big characters for vox machina, it just felt like a way to retroactively make the world more gay.

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Kima and Allura were always an item in Season 1 though. Season 1, Episode 97 is where Vox Machina find out they are engaged.

Wrenn said:

Kima and Allura were always an item in Season 1 though. Season 1, Episode 97 is where Vox Machina find out they are engaged.

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really? i don't remember that at all. i thought the mighty nein just met them and they were married... but it's been a long time since i watched campaign 1

I only watched the first episode and I liked it a lot.

With season 2 being greenlit already Im pretty sure the first two episodes were not only an introduction but setting the ground work for the Chroma Conclave.

TJT said:

I may be retarded.

But why does inviting someone to see his own family not seem as dramatic as you're saying?

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They're all dead.... Delilah was inviting him to his own death and twisting the knife a bit on him losing his entire family.

Is Pike having a crisis of faith part of campaign one? I ask because of her lame blessing and then seeming to have her holy symbol broken during the fight with the Briarwoods. I had heard Ashley was working a lot during the first campaign and this might be a narrative way to explain a lack-o-healing?

I watched the first three episodes and I agree with the general consensus. 1 and 2 were a disappointment, but I suppose they were a necessary evil. 3 was much better.

That said, I wasn't the least bit surprised that 6 minutes in to the first episode they introduced the pink-haired, non-binary, bearded tranny barkeep. /eyeroll.

Qhue said:

Is Pike having a crisis of faith part of campaign one? I ask because of her lame blessing and then seeming to have her holy symbol broken during the fight with the Briarwoods. I had heard Ashley was working a lot during the first campaign and this might be a narrative way to explain a lack-o-healing?

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The "too tired" to cast and the symbol going dark at the end of the Briarwood fight is just storytelling elements to explain the D&D rules for limited number of spell slots a cleric gets per day.

And Ashley had never played D&D prior to joining this game. Watching her fumble around with all the rules during the livestream was a weekly occurrence and her role playing was pretty shallow early on. She has gotten much better in the decade that has passed since.