The Mandalorian & Grogu (2026)

Eh, it is true audiences like to wrap things up - The Rise of Skywalker still made over $500M Domestic, even after the damage Solo and The Last Jedi did.

It's also worth reminding people that Deadpool and Wolverine made over $600M in 2024. That's 50% more than the highest grossing movie of 2025 (Minecraft), and D&W wasn't even the biggest movie of 2024 - that was Inside Out 2. $600M is hard to describe as people being done with comic movies. (Also remember that Superman was the #4 2025 release, and Fantastic Four was #8.)

So yes, there are all sorts of trends depressing box office results, from people conditioned to wait for the 17 streaming services they've subscribed to, to formulaic entries relying on editing and reshoots saving them at the last minute, to leftist politics in casting and plotting, etc. etc. etc. But movies absolutely can still do $300 or $400M dollars - the problem being that a $200+M budget makes that very tough to be profitable after advertising, etc.

Gravel said:

Watching the Drinker video on Backrooms, and it makes me think it's not that movies or the theater experience is dead post-covid, but rather everyone has just rejected the dog shit Hollywood has been putting out.

I think we all like to point out Endgame and covid as the end of an era, but I wonder if we've been looking at it all wrong. By the time Endgame came around, people were already rejecting it, but wanted to finish out the saga that took a decade to unfold. But it wasn't covid that killed theaters, maybe they were already dead?

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Convergence. Holes in the swiss cheese lining up. Covid 19 and crappy movies started to really ramp up during that time.


Mostly remakes, sequels. Prequels. Giant list of trash, has only gotten much worse since then. And then BAM! Writer's strike in 2023 kicked the body into the ditch. Fewer movies, fewer tv shows. Lots of unemployment. Work going out of CA. Huge production areas have been empty for years. That work is gone forever.

You'd think after years of dropping massive financial clangers, people would wake the fuck up. Odyssey with Jogger Helen, Tranny Achilles. This movie has a massive amount of negativity surrounding it, I don't know how the fuck it doesn't leave a giant crater where ticket sales should be. Fucking Supergirl. They scraped some scabby whore off the floor of a methadone clinic and put her in a movie.

I would have gone with



They already had a really good Supergirl



They went with this round-toothed scab



The overall problem with Hollywood/Movies these days is that they get paid win/lose because Netflix or Amazon will pay top dollar for dog shit, effectively subsidizing all this trash. No one has an incentive to bust ass and make an amazing product because they get paid the same as if they made trash.

Fucker said:

Mostly remakes, sequels. Prequels. Giant list of trash, has only gotten much worse since then.

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2024 is especially bad but most of the modern era looks like this.

Gravel said:

Watching the Drinker video on Backrooms, and it makes me think it's not that movies or the theater experience is dead post-covid, but rather everyone has just rejected the dog shit Hollywood has been putting out.

I think we all like to point out Endgame and covid as the end of an era, but I wonder if we've been looking at it all wrong. By the time Endgame came around, people were already rejecting it, but wanted to finish out the saga that took a decade to unfold. But it wasn't covid that killed theaters, maybe they were already dead?

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COVID def hurt theaters, but you are not wrong that there is still an appetite for big movies that people feel they need to see in a theater experience. 5 of the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time are 2020-2026 (covid era) releases, while 4 releases in the top 10 are from 2009-2019.



Drinker is doing what he does making the luke warmest of hottakes. Big movies bombed all the time and small movies made alls the monies all the time. Its just we are finally seeing the people who grew up making their silly teen films and college films on youtube instead of the classic camcorder / video camera with a vhs and we got 2 of them in a month. There are still plenty of big movies coming out this year that are going to make a shit ton of cash. Anyone who thinks Avengers with RDJ is going to flop is silly. Dune 3 is going to make a ton of money. That Speilberg movie will make money off his name alone. Toy Story, Minions, Moana, Spiderman!, a fucking Paw Patrol movie. Like none of those will flop.

He-man is bombing cause Gen-X doesnt care about it. The time for that shit was 10 years ago when their kids were actually kids not teens. Star Wars is going to break even and its cause its based on a fucking TV show and the movie should have release din 2022 when Baby Yoda was a big deal. Now those kids that loved baby Yoda are 5 years older and do not love Baby Yoda. BUT! IF that Mando movie was badass and considered the "Andor" quality Star Wars movie we should have gotten back when Force Awakens released it would have made bank. It was bad (I guess, I didnt see it) and felt cheap and wasn't worth going when I can watch it on Disney+ in a few months if i even care to remember to. That Saudi film? Did anyone know that existed before it left theaters?

Sure people are more careful with their money but if the movie is good or must see in theater (Avatar 4 will make money based on that alone), people will always go.

TBT-TheBigToe said:

I dunno, I am really interested in how his next movie does.
I have a suspicion it will under-perform, I think people are getting tired of "names" selling mediocre movies
BUT
I am often wrong, son.

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It can both under perform and make money. It cost $115 mill so its 2.5x "breakeven" is under 300, which for a big summer release is cheap.