The Newsroom S2

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I do not see your point Binkles.

The extreme left Speaker of The House, Nancy Pelosi, made that statement about Obamacare. They did not want people to know how screwed up the bill was/is and they fell for it hook, line, and sinker. It is still a massive train wreck. The unions who supported it in 2010 are scrambling to get waivers from it now as they see the unintended consequences of it that "may" destroy their unions. (The end of the 40 hour work week, exchanges being cheaper options then union healthcare, employers preferring to either cut hours or take the penalty vs providing healthcare, etc) The extreme left pushed this upon the Democratic party. And I agree it is a horrible form of healthcare. A better left leaning one would be preferred.

My point being I would not like to debated it in THIS FORUM, not that I am not open to debate it in the political forum. Anyway hopefully this is the last post not about the show I will have to make here.

Let's hope for many more seasons to come.
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Given your lack of knowledge and ability to make shit up on the subject you probably should not debate it in in the political thread either.

Just kidding you'll fit right in.
 
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Tea party = extreme, but fascists are merely far? Libertarians are LESS right than the tea party? Pelosi = extreme, but communists and socialists are merely far? Communism is dying and fascism is dead, both because their implementation is/wasextreme. I don't think you're using extreme properly. Or am I to understand that you think Pelosi is more leftist than Vladimir Lenin?

I don't even see how you rate libertarians less right than...anybody. The only thing more right is an anarcho-capitalist, which I would say doesn't exist except that is what the libertarians would go for if they could get support for it.
 
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Watched episode two of this, was marginally better than last season. Does it get better as the season progresses? If it stays the same, or improves slightly, I'll probably stick with it. The reduction in Romcom, and ridiculous sorkanism intellectual tourettes tirades seem to have been curtailed, people sound a bit more like real people. Any succinct info would be appreciated, don't want to scroll back through because of spoilers and because the first Skylancer post has probably already given me aids.
 
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It was way better than season 1 BUT still has its issues. Sadly as you noticed the political bollocks has leaked into this thread but hopefully that will die off, especially now the season has finished. By no means am I saying you must watch this show but if you just accept it for what it is, a flawed could be better but is still more than watchable compared to most shit on telly show you'll be fine.

I really don't understand some of the massive weekly tirades I read elsewhere about this show, Sorkin isn't going to read them, he's not going to change. He is who he is, either accept that or don't watch, it's not worth the stomach ulcers.
 
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The sorkinism is still strong with this one. The back and forth about credibility with Law and Order dude and management in the last few episodes of the season is an orgy of the stuff.
 
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Agraza_sl said:
The sorkinism is still strong with this one. The back and forth about credibility with Law and Order dude and management in the last few episodes of the season is an orgy of the stuff.
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Sorkinisms in my Sorkin TV shows. Say it aint so ...
 
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Well it's probably the entire reason Studio 60 flopped. A news studio is a better environment for platitudes than a live comedy show, but the white house is the best he's done so far. He should consider doing politicians again when the newsroom ends. Maybe a spinoff of The West Wing about some junior members of the house. The house is in campaign mode 90% of the time due to the two year term, which is a ridiculously strong environment for Sorkin's ethical tirades.
 
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I like Sorkin's writing (dialogues) but I would be curious and excited to watch The Newsroom (or The West Wing) with House of Cards writers, like politics on a more cynical take. In TTW / The Newsroom politics are depicted as one's PoV on how it's fucked and how some people are trying hard doing it right, while House of Cards pictures politics are they actually are, and how people are getting their share of it.
 
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Don't delude yourself into thinking one is a fantasy and one is not. They are just two different fantasies. Unless you are a career politician and can attest one is closer to reality than the other, you are only confronting your own fantasy to the ones of the show writers.
 
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I thought Alpha House was a fun look at the daily routine of politics. It seemed more down to earth and plausible than either of those two. I hope we get more of it very soon.
 
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I never watched Alpha House. Is that still available on Amazon Prime?

What happened to the gossip writer Will was dating? We just conveniently forgot her so he could marry Mac? I don't really agree with some of the praise mentioned in this thread. This show is OK. Not sure if I'll tune in next season.
 
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What happened to the gossip writer Will was dating?
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A lot of this show seems based around convenience. The show never portrayed the relationship as serious. Even the gossip writer, in subtext, viewed Will's relationship to Mac as more serious than her own. The show's portrayal, and the gossip writer's dialogue, seemed to suggest that she was the strange on the side.
 
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Yea, Alpha House's pilot is still available with the free trial of amazon prime. I don't really know how that works because I streamed it from an illegitimate source. It's free either way, so /shrug. Check out Betas as well if you're looking at amazon pilots. I think they were both picked up.
 
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It's worth him winning for the people I mentioned a few posts ago no doubt going absolute apoplectic with rage
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