The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

I didn't use the word "proof", Fana, I used "prove" (and its present perfect tense "proven").

prove (/pro?ov/) : verb
1. demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence or argument.

*ahem* "by EVIDENCE or argument."

So your statement doesn't reflect the reality of what I said in my post. But let's humor you, Fana. Let's say I did use the word "proof" when I meant the word "evidence"... So what? Like I mentioned in my response to AngryGerbil, mistakes only matter if they interfere with intended meaning. If I choose the wrong word but you still know exactly what I'm talking about, then communication was successful and your little game of "semantics gotcha" not only doesn't contradict anything I said, it illustrates that you are "lost and very small" (at least according to Gerb).

See what I mean, Gerb?

Really? I just watched that "sexist air conditioning" video and... Really? This is what you guys are bitching about? Holy shit. Get some fucking perspective. It's like if not every single person in the world is going out of their way to make sure YOU SPECIFICALLY aren't having every desire accommodated, no matter how minor, then it's a travesty and everything is falling apart and the world is going to shit. I mean... wow. You joke about privilege, but Jesus...

Sorry, double negative.

Sorry, Quaid, maybe I should have specified that "you guys" included:

Noble Savage: "What a bunch of whiney fucking cunts"
Slyminxy: "I'd put that cunt into a non-airconditioned part of the office/building. There you go, equality for you bitch."
Byr: "If men have to wear suits in your workplace, maybe you shouldnt be coming to work in a summer dress?"
Gutterflesh: ("Fuck this shit, I want off the planet" meme)
Saban: "Check your air conditioning privilege or some such."

Maybe you consider that inconsequential, but considering very few posts in FSR get more than 1 reply (the grand majority get none), I thought this was quite the response so I checked out the video. It turns out that, much how you decided to interpret the club-going rape victim's complaint as a personal attack against the DJ, these guys decided that women who freeze their asses off at work every day aren't just vocalizing their discomfort, they're attacking men and deserve to be put in their place.

Maybe you think I'm blowing it out of proportion, but there's no way my reaction to these posts is more exaggerated than THEIR reaction to someone making a legitimate observation based on real-life experience. So, yeah, perspective.

Palum: "Not sure if satire..."
Rime: "That is the terrifying part of all of this. It has gotten to the point that it is difficult to tell the difference between reality and what should be obvious satire. But nope!"
Siddar: "I'm gonna go with satire for the sake of my sanity."

This brings up an interesting point: SJWs may actually be making people stupider. The number of times I've seen people call Poe's law on something that was clearly, clearly parody has increased significantly over the past couple of years.

I suppose their are 2 possibilities:
1) Anti-SJWs believe SJWs are so stupid, they will not hesitate to consider any parody, no matter how over-the-top, as a potentially truthful SJW stance.
2) Anti-SJWs are themselves so stupid they are no longer capable of distinguishing clear parody from reality.

I imagine most anti-SJWs will claim possibility 1, as though it is a point of pride to be so judgmental that you can no longer recognize obvious parody. "My critical thinking's been shot to shit, but it's not my fault! It's 'cuz they're so stupid, see?" Yup, that doesn't say anything about one's ability to look at a situation objectively or anything.

Badabidi: "I'm pretty sure death has the same meaning in all languages."

What makes you so sure? The chalice and tabernacle are items used in Christian mass, but in French Canadian they are harsh swear words ("Caulisse!" "Tabarnak!").
"Urusai" is a Japanese word that literally translates into "noisy" or "loud", but it is often used to mean "Shut up".
Italians will often use the word for pig when swearing: "Porco Dio!" "Porca Madonna!" "Porca miseria!"

A word might have the same literal meaning in multiple languages, but it is by no means a given that all cultures use the word in the same way or under the same contexts.

Good morning, everyone!

Alright, let's get started...



Soygen: "Tanoomba, do you consider yourself a SJW?"

No. I think it's a completely useless and vague term that is used whenever it suits the purposes of anti-SJWs, but even if it wasn't a catch-all for "those who don't think like me", I still wouldn't be an SJW, because I disagree with much of what supposed SJWs are doing. I'm a neutral, a moderate, whatever you want to call it. I don't associate myself with a "side" because dealing in dichotomies is a fantastic way to miss the nuance and context nbecessary to actually understand a topic.



Radditsu: "That would be taking a stance in a debate. So no."

How is making a clear statement that "us vs them" is a counterproductive way to handle disagreement not taking a stance? It's a much stronger stance than "These guys are idiots amirite?" *brofist*



Gerb: "The act of asking him the question in the first place was seen as an act of colossal idiocy, so much so that I, at the time, was considered not worth speaking to."

Idiocy? No. But you do at least seem to somewhat understand my point, which is that it's often not helpful to categorize people under a label in order to understand their beliefs. If you'd like to know what I believe, ask me specifically. Don't ask me what label you can put me under, and don't be surprised if my answer isn't black-or-white (questions about complex issues rarely have clear-cut answers). Don't confuse my treating a subject with the nuance it deserves as refusing to take a stance.




Cad: ""Not acting like an asshole" is his new schtick, where "acting like an asshole" is defined as making fun of SJW's. When SJW's attack everyone else, it's fine."

a) It's not "new". That's always been my schtick.
b) No, acting like an asshole is not "making fun of SJWs". Straw man.
c) No, it's not fine when SJWs attack everyone else. Straw man.





Gerb: "I myself have been annoyed at people who over-use the word proof when what they are actually talking about isn't proof, but evidence."

Did you ignore my response where I clarified that I did not, in fact, use the word "proof" in the post he was responding to? Did you not notice that, in response to my clarification, he made a comment about personal anecdotes that could not have been less related to my post? (There was nothing anecdotal about it.) If you make a statement about global warming and I respond with "Ha ha, soft cheese is fattier than hard cheese, you moron", well, I am technically correct, right? Nobody can argue the validity of my statement. However, since it has zero connection to what you were talking about, it is a worthless statement. That's Fanaskin's MO.

Soy: "I would agree with you that you aren't a SJW. You are far more of a contrarian here, than you are an actual ideologue."

That's fair.

Soy: "However, I don't agree that SJW is a term used for "anyone who disagrees with me"; at least it's not for me. I have plenty of people who disagree with me on tons of topics, who are my close friends, family and others. SJW is a pretty specific, far left fringe personality. I consider myself to be pretty liberal on 90% of political topics, but the SJW-types annoy me more than any conservatives do, save for the most far right lunatics. SJW is the tea party of the left. That's my definition of them(I don't mean I made that definition up, but it's one I agree with)."

Sure, but I have often seen the term SJW used whenever we hear about somebody who takes an anti-racist or anti-sexist stance, even if it doesn't involve "lunacy". Basically, if someone thinks there's a problem with an issue concerning gender/race and posters here DON'T think there's a problem, that person is an SJW. I have never expressed radical views about gender or race, but I have had the SJW label thrown at me many times. Someone doesn't have to be an ideologue to be considered an SJW here, they just have to express a view that makes people FEEL like they're being attacked for not thinking there's a problem.