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The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.
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And we're not.
We're not moving on until you either provide the evidence to support your claim, or you admit you have none.
The reason you can't do the former is because the evidence doesn't exist.
The reason you can't do the latter is because its the final piece in your jenga tower of retardation on this issue, and after this you have nowhere left to hide your stupid opinion from the consequences inherent in it.
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Frame | Define Frame at Dictionary.com
You are accusing Nungesser's team of CONTRIVING, DEVISING AND COMPOSING the emails and text messages in such a way as to favor Nungesser.
This can only be done through manipulation of those text messages. You cannot frame all the text messages in full in any way except how they appear as a fact of their fundamental nature.
You can only frame the information favorably by manipulating it.
Where is the evidence of manipulation? Where is the evidence these text messages were contrived, devised, or composed in such a way as to FRAME THEM FAVORABLY for Nungesser.
This is your claim. Period.
Now prove it or admit you are wrong.
#23 is the relevant definition. To CONTRIVE, to DEVISE, to COMPOSE, as a plan, a law, or a poem, or evidence in a case such as text messages.
You are accusing Nungesser's team of CONTRIVING, DEVISING AND COMPOSING the emails and text messages in such a way as to favor Nungesser.
This can only be done through manipulation of those text messages. You cannot frame all the text messages in full in any way except how they appear as a fact of their fundamental nature.
You can only frame the information favorably by manipulating it.
Where is the evidence of manipulation? Where is the evidence these text messages were contrived, devised, or composed in such a way as to FRAME THEM FAVORABLY for Nungesser.
This is your claim. Period.
Now prove it or admit you are wrong.
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How anybody can read this and think I'm suggesting they edited or altered the text messages in any way is beyond me.
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No one cares if you, as a fucking ENGLISH LANGUAGE INSTRUCTOR, cannot comprehend the consequences of your claims and your statements.
No one.
Your ignorance and stupidity is not an excuse.
Your complete inability to address this except with cop outs is admission enough that you have no evidence to support your claim.
You're done here.
No one.
Your ignorance and stupidity is not an excuse.
Your complete inability to address this except with cop outs is admission enough that you have no evidence to support your claim.
You're done here.
Tanoomba
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I made a very clear post that was explicit in its meaning. You chose to infer something that is no way reflected by my actual words, and apparently you've decided to make this the hill you're going to die on.
Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess. Your "hail Mary" play isn't going to pan out, dude. Your claim that evidence needs to be tampered with in order to suggest a specific scenario is incorrect. The lawyers took non-conclusive evidence and tried to portray it as pushing a certain narrative. I gave an example of such (presenting the "Fuck me in the but" message as "broaching the topic of anal sex") REPEATEDLY. See how that works? The lawyers think that by suggesting that Sulkowicz was outright asking him for anal, that it therefore stands to reason that the anal sex that eventually DID occur was consensual. After all, she asked for it, right? No evidence was tampered with, no messages were redacted/edited, and yet the lawyers framed it in a specific way to back up Nungesser's story.
THAT'S WHAT LAWYERS DO.
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You didn't show shit.
You asserted nonsense that you made up ad hoc because you have no evidence.
Evidence or admit you have none.
That's the only way out now.
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You're right. it wasn't "shit". What I showed was how lawyers can frame available evidence to suggest a specific narrative WITHOUT tampering with or editing evidence in any way.
That was my point. I have clarified it many times now. Are you seriously planning on trying to force me to defend a position I objectively never took? You're literally playing Calvinball right now.
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Also, your logical fallacy is non sequitor.
Whether you can invent scenarios where you are right has no bearing on your inability to prove your claim true in this debate.
I don't care how many imaginary scenarios you invent to try and justify your reasoning for concluding the way you have, the fact is that I am asking you for evidence to justify you claim to me.
And your imagination, again, is not an acceptable substitute for that evidence you have failed to provide.
Evidence or admission of being wrong.
Stories, fables, ad hoc mythologies you've invented whole cloth in desperation to distract from the issue and lead us off on an irrelevant tangent to try and get you out of the trap you've laid for yourself to step in are simply not going to be effective.
You will not move past this point until you either put up evidence, or admit you have none.
Whether you can invent scenarios where you are right has no bearing on your inability to prove your claim true in this debate.
I don't care how many imaginary scenarios you invent to try and justify your reasoning for concluding the way you have, the fact is that I am asking you for evidence to justify you claim to me.
And your imagination, again, is not an acceptable substitute for that evidence you have failed to provide.
Evidence or admission of being wrong.
Stories, fables, ad hoc mythologies you've invented whole cloth in desperation to distract from the issue and lead us off on an irrelevant tangent to try and get you out of the trap you've laid for yourself to step in are simply not going to be effective.
You will not move past this point until you either put up evidence, or admit you have none.
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I've already demonstrated you made that claim.
Your attempts to run away from it speaks for itself.
You are a liar and a coward, a forked tongue weasel and a worthless, disingenuous pile of filth and you have failed to prove your case.
Utterly.
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1st grade antics are all you've got left because they're all you're intellectually capable of.
Your admission you've got nothing is accepted. If you had anything, you'd have something better than reverting to your adolescence as a safe space from having to face the fact that, once again, you're a retard.
Your admission you've got nothing is accepted. If you had anything, you'd have something better than reverting to your adolescence as a safe space from having to face the fact that, once again, you're a retard.
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Recap:
- You claim that I claimed Nungesser's lawyers edited/tampered with text messages to push a narrative.
- I (objectively, mind you) never made that claim.
- I DID claim that they were trying to present the evidence in a way that suggests a certain narrative.
- I included a clear example of EXACTLY what I was talking about (the "Fuck me in the but" message).
- I literally could not have been clearer in making my point.
- You have, due presumably to desperation, decided to keep pushing your repeatedly-debunked theory.
- I am laughing my ass off.
Are we caught up?
- You claim that I claimed Nungesser's lawyers edited/tampered with text messages to push a narrative.
- I (objectively, mind you) never made that claim.
- I DID claim that they were trying to present the evidence in a way that suggests a certain narrative.
- I included a clear example of EXACTLY what I was talking about (the "Fuck me in the but" message).
- I literally could not have been clearer in making my point.
- You have, due presumably to desperation, decided to keep pushing your repeatedly-debunked theory.
- I am laughing my ass off.
Are we caught up?
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