The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.
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Reminder: Jhodi madea list of "evidence"that suggests Sulkowicz is lying, presumably the same evidence he has repeatedly claimed I am ignoring. I went over it in detail and showed exactly how ALL of that "evidence" isnowhere near as clear-cut and conclusiveas Jhodi has convinced himself it is.
1. The old "making a claim without proof = lying" fallacy.
2. Literally repeating #1. Jhodi believes saying the same thing again counts as more evidence. Can't make this up.
3. Repeating #1 yet again. Jhodi's first three pieces of evidence are all "Sulkowicz had no proof for her story".
4. Jhodi claims that Sulkowicz's text messages contradict her claims about her relationship with Nungesser. This is an outright lie, as no such contradiction exists.
5. Unbelievably, Jhodi repeats #1 again, this time about the other accusations made against Nungesser.
6. A non sequitur presuming there is a connection between Sulkowicz's art project and whether or not she's been raped.
7. Literally the exact same non sequitur, applied to a different art project.
So, all of this "evidence" that Sulkowicz is lying amounts to: A logical fallacy repeated 4 times, an outright lie, and a non sequitur repeated twice. This is what Jhodi claims allows him to come to a confident conclusion.
1. The old "making a claim without proof = lying" fallacy.
2. Literally repeating #1. Jhodi believes saying the same thing again counts as more evidence. Can't make this up.
3. Repeating #1 yet again. Jhodi's first three pieces of evidence are all "Sulkowicz had no proof for her story".
4. Jhodi claims that Sulkowicz's text messages contradict her claims about her relationship with Nungesser. This is an outright lie, as no such contradiction exists.
5. Unbelievably, Jhodi repeats #1 again, this time about the other accusations made against Nungesser.
6. A non sequitur presuming there is a connection between Sulkowicz's art project and whether or not she's been raped.
7. Literally the exact same non sequitur, applied to a different art project.
So, all of this "evidence" that Sulkowicz is lying amounts to: A logical fallacy repeated 4 times, an outright lie, and a non sequitur repeated twice. This is what Jhodi claims allows him to come to a confident conclusion.
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Reminder: Jhodi thinks this post supported his argument. He's literally saying "Unless you follow my rules about how to behave after a rape, I'm going to accuse you of lying. You don't like it, tough shit." I wish to God I was joking.
Interestingly, we see some of the tin foil hattery that apparently is Jhodi's motivation for throwing logic and reason out the window. He thinks reserving judgment until a conclusion can be proven is "making excuses for stupid bitches". He thinks that, unless we condemn outright every rape accuser who doesn't have proof of her claim, that we are endorsing and encouraging false rape accusations. He thinks that simply saying "we don't know what happened because there is no proof either way" makes someone an SJW retard, despite that statement being logistically sound and reflecting no ideology whatsoever.
Can't make this up, people.
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Reminder: Jhodi continues to ignore the fact that in the "Jackie" case (as well as many other well-known cases of false rape accusation) there existed ample and conclusive evidence that objectively showed the accuser to be lying. Actual proof existed that exposed contradictions in their stories. Actual facts demonstrated that what they had described could not have happened as they described it. Yet Jhodi continues to believe that expecting similar proof that Sulkowicz is lying is unreasonable, that such proof can not exist (he keeps falsely equating it to "proving a negative), despite it very clearly existing in many other cases. I'm not joking.
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Serious question though.
For real.
Do you ever stop when you're in the middle of typing a bunch of crap no one reads and tell yourself "Jesus Christ, I really have let Hodj drive me insane!"
Because if not, holy cow the complete and total lack of self reflection it would require to not have that thought hit you every once in awhile.
Of course, I guess the insane don't really ever know they are insane. They probably figure it is everyone else who is crazy, after all.
For real.
Do you ever stop when you're in the middle of typing a bunch of crap no one reads and tell yourself "Jesus Christ, I really have let Hodj drive me insane!"
Because if not, holy cow the complete and total lack of self reflection it would require to not have that thought hit you every once in awhile.
Of course, I guess the insane don't really ever know they are insane. They probably figure it is everyone else who is crazy, after all.
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Reminder: Jhodi thinks that by coming in and copy-pasting "Nuh-uh!" repeatedly that he has somehow countered the facts of the discussion. He believes that by merely pretending he has a "gotcha!", that he can will all the evidence of his own ignorance out of existence. He's using the "clap your hands to bring Tinkerbell back to life" technique to try to revive his failed argument, hoping to God that people don't see it as the pathetic flailing of a man with nowhere else to turn.
Ironically, he is in no way obligated to highlight his failure. A reasonable person would have just held his tongue and let me wax poetic about whatever. Not Jhodi, though. Every post needs a response. He needs to show that he's "got this", even as he resorts to exactly the fingers-in-ears "lalalalalalala" behavior that he himself has claimed is not a rebuttal. Also ironically, despite being a self-claimed expert on logical fallacies, he has no problem indulging in the logical fallacy of proof by false declaration of victory. It's gonna happen after this post, too.
Can't make this up.
Ironically, he is in no way obligated to highlight his failure. A reasonable person would have just held his tongue and let me wax poetic about whatever. Not Jhodi, though. Every post needs a response. He needs to show that he's "got this", even as he resorts to exactly the fingers-in-ears "lalalalalalala" behavior that he himself has claimed is not a rebuttal. Also ironically, despite being a self-claimed expert on logical fallacies, he has no problem indulging in the logical fallacy of proof by false declaration of victory. It's gonna happen after this post, too.
Can't make this up.
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Reminder: This is a typical Jhodi shitpost, void of any meaning, relevance, or rationality. It contains nothing of value, adds nothing to the discussion, and exists exclusively to attempt to boost his own ego by insulting others. Doesn't matter that it's entirely a flight of fancy that's backed up by nothing that's ever happened. Doesn't matter that it in no way supports any argument he's ever made, nor does it counter any of mine. All that matter is that it is delivered with cocky arrogance, because in Jhodi's world sounding confident is more important than saying something that has merit.
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There is no discussion here.
There's you, desperately shitting out walls of text so you can salvage the complete loss you had yesterday, in another desperate attempt to restart a debate you already lost yesterday, and me mocking you because you are an obsessive compulsive lunatic.
That's not a discussion.
That's me throwing peanuts at the monkey in his cage.
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Come to think of it, "she has no proof, therefore she's lying" is also a non sequitur.
With the exception of the outright lie about the Facebook messages contradicting their relationship, the ENTIRETY of Jhodi's "evidence" that Sulkowicz is lying is non sequiturs. It is, entirely, conclusions that don't logically follow from the presented premises.
...Oh, wait. I forgot: Jhodi's "feels" tell him that his personal interpretation is the more "reasonable" one. Not the courts (which, again, dismissed his precious "evidence"), not the facts (which, again, support Sulkowicz's story in its entirety), but his "feels". I'll let the hypocrisy of that sink in for a bit.
...Not that he has any intention of addressing this. He's currently busy masturbating furiously in the corner to claims of his own imagined victory. This is what happens literally every time he argues himself into a corner and has no way out. He just tunes everything out, plugs those fingers firmly in those ears and sings "lalalalalalala" as loud as he can. (See the next post for yet another example of this.)
With the exception of the outright lie about the Facebook messages contradicting their relationship, the ENTIRETY of Jhodi's "evidence" that Sulkowicz is lying is non sequiturs. It is, entirely, conclusions that don't logically follow from the presented premises.
...Oh, wait. I forgot: Jhodi's "feels" tell him that his personal interpretation is the more "reasonable" one. Not the courts (which, again, dismissed his precious "evidence"), not the facts (which, again, support Sulkowicz's story in its entirety), but his "feels". I'll let the hypocrisy of that sink in for a bit.
...Not that he has any intention of addressing this. He's currently busy masturbating furiously in the corner to claims of his own imagined victory. This is what happens literally every time he argues himself into a corner and has no way out. He just tunes everything out, plugs those fingers firmly in those ears and sings "lalalalalalala" as loud as he can. (See the next post for yet another example of this.)
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Things Jhodi has not addressed:
- How the Facebook messages contradict Sulkowicz's description of her relationship with Nungesser.
- Why we should accept non sequitur as conclusive evidence of anything.
- Why this supposed "evidence" holds any weight despite being dismissed by an actual court.
- Why we should accept Jhodi as an arbiter of what is "reasonable".
- Why, when we have plenty of cases of proven false rape accusations, we should not require the same burden of proof to be met in this case before concluding that Sulkowicz is lying.
- Why demanding hard evidence before concluding that someone has committed a serious crime is being an SJW retard.
All of these gaping holes in his argument, and yet he's still comfortable enough to claim victory.
- How the Facebook messages contradict Sulkowicz's description of her relationship with Nungesser.
- Why we should accept non sequitur as conclusive evidence of anything.
- Why this supposed "evidence" holds any weight despite being dismissed by an actual court.
- Why we should accept Jhodi as an arbiter of what is "reasonable".
- Why, when we have plenty of cases of proven false rape accusations, we should not require the same burden of proof to be met in this case before concluding that Sulkowicz is lying.
- Why demanding hard evidence before concluding that someone has committed a serious crime is being an SJW retard.
All of these gaping holes in his argument, and yet he's still comfortable enough to claim victory.
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