Unsung Story: Tale of the Guardians - From FF Tactics and Vagrant Story designer

Take my money you bastards. I love me some FFT.

Yes yeah yep mhm

I'm pretty surprised that it is actually borderline on getting funded. Don't care about any of the stretch goals other than the $750k one, but it doesn't even look like it will get there.

There are conflicting reports about what happened during the development of FFXII, but one way or the other, he did not see the project to its completion, so that might be why potential backers have cold feet. That and mobile phone.

Mobile phone would be a weird reason not to want to back it though. The game is being made either way, but the entire purpose of the Kickstarter is to make PC the lead platform instead of phone and greatly increase the overall scope.

And the end result of FF XII development was the best game in the series by a mile, so I can't fault Matsuno for whatever internal conflicts happened there.

Sad that this hasn't been one of the random games to explode on Kickstarter. Really wanted PC and some of those stretch goals. I'll still grab it when it comes out for whatever platform though.

I guess they didn't really advertise it enough... I mean there are multiple forums dedicated to FFT and they didn't have someone go and post on those forums with a link, it popped up a couple of days after from fans posting it. But that isn't enough, you need to aggressively get the word out. The Mega Man successor did that really well.

Are there even anymore tacticle RPGs like FFT anymore? Does Fire Emblem even count? What else is there?

Leviothan_sl said:

Are there even anymore tacticle RPGs like FFT anymore? Does Fire Emblem even count? What else is there?

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Tactics Ogre
Back in 2011 they reworked Tactics Ogre for the PSP. They added quite a bit of content, redid the inventory and leveling systems, included a skill system, included a crafting system, added new playable characters ect. Most of the new features seem unpolished. The crafting system is very time consuming and cumbersome, the skill system can get very grindy, the leveling system makes utilizing new classes a challenge and recruiting the new characters can be a very obtuse process that requires the use of guides.

The branching story is still there and now when you complete the game the first time you can access a mode that allows you to jump around in the timeline, so you can see every story arc using the same save and characters.

Overall I still like the game, but I use it more as a time killer. The amount of time you can potentially sink into the game is a little ridiculous if you are going for some sort of 100% complete challenge.

Valkyria Chronicles
This is a tactical rpg but the combat is quite different from your typical turn based grid system. It's still turn based, but you instead activate individual units and run them around the field in a 3rd person over the shoulder view. You have a limited amount of movement each unit activation that varies between the classes and you have a limited number of unit activations each turn. The setting is an alternate reality world war I with tanks and guns and ancient ruins. This game was released on the PS3 and got a sequel on the PSP.

Arklash Legacy
This game has a different combat system again. It runs like an RTS with dialogue, but you can pause the action at any time to queue up some commands. The setting is quirky and the characters are A-typical, which makes for some pretty entertaining banter between the party members. There isn't much outside of the maps the combat takes place on. A nice aspect is the ability to constantly respec your characters talents in between battles in order to try different combinations.

Expedition: Conquistadors
This is a game that is somewhat in the same vein as the Armored Princess series and reminiscent of the much older Pirates Gold. You have a open world map where you can encounter various events and a separate hex based battle screen. I found the story and dialogue to be interesting and the combat and survival aspects of the game very engaging on the higher difficulties. Was a very satisfying experience the first time through.

These aren't the latest and greatest and none are exactly like FFT, but they are all fairly solid tactical RPGs.

Put 20 in

Phazael_sl said:

Dropped 80. Fuck it. This is the guy who did the original Tactics Ogre and FFT. I owe him the 80 bucks just on principle. Hope it somehow makes it to Andriod OS.

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Game is being made for iOS/Android regardless of if the kick starter gets funded or not.

Vorph_sl said:

Mobile phone would be a weird reason not to want to back it though. The game is being made either way, but the entire purpose of the Kickstarter is to make PC the lead platform instead of phone and greatly increase the overall scope.

And the end result of FF XII development was the best game in the series by a mile, so I can't fault Matsuno for whatever internal conflicts happened there.

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The total wreck of a storyline?

So the protagonist was going to be Ashe at first, then Basch because a women could mean less sales, then Vaan because the storyline was too dark, then the players are so confused by the flat gutted characters that they just make Balthier be the main character because of how entertaining he is?

Meanwhile have some cutscenes of Phantom Meance political dialogue and no final boss or endgame plot twist (I assume because they rewrote the start so much).

FF12 doesn't really have a main character. It is more that the group is the "protagonist" and that the events that happen near the group is the storyline. And no, I'm not defending the Occulus or whatever the fuck the deus ex retardica was in FF12, but it did have a pretty cohesive story from start to finish minus that blemish. The combat system was pretty tits, especially the gambit system.

Chris_sl said:

The total wreck of a storyline?

So the protagonist was going to be Ashe at first, then Basch because a women could mean less sales, then Vaan because the storyline was too dark, then the players are so confused by the flat gutted characters that they just make Balthier be the main character because of how entertaining he is?

Meanwhile have some cutscenes of Phantom Meance political dialogue and no final boss or endgame plot twist (I assume because they rewrote the start so much).

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And yet it still all made infinitely more sense than anything else in the series ever has.

Phazael_sl said:

Dropped 80. Fuck it. This is the guy who did the original Tactics Ogre and FFT. I owe him the 80 bucks just on principle. Hope it somehow makes it to Andriod OS.

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Ya thats how I felt. Tactics Ogre I had 120 hours in and my brother deleted my saves when I was at work because I had kicked his ass the night before from scratching one of my games. So I spent another 100 hours I think.

FFT...oh god I can't begin to count how many hours have went into beating that 7-8 times at least in my life.

Cents on the dollar...

They're getting close, but less than 48 hours to go. I backed in the hope that this happens. I really want some tactical RPG action on my pc.