War Dogs PvPvP 100 Person Tactical Shooter

gauze

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Oh I don't know about the little bird; only the FAL.. I don't know what the minigun was doing per bullet. I was getting shredded by two pilots(only t1 armor so expected).. that was honestly the first time I felt what you had been preaching for the previous month haha.. literally nothing I could do, the scout doesn't even scratch the pilot. I could hit him all day because he'd lazy hover knowing damn well 80% of the playerbase can't do shit.



also, ig the tanks I was seeing is exploits of sorts.. to the point of the blue experiment; lol...? but atleast it proves it was never a "blue has the disadvantage" it's just "blue is gay, but I make more money so blue is win" illusions.

edit, saw this thought it would be enjoyed

 
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Xevy

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Oh I don't know about the little bird; only the FAL.. I don't know what the minigun was doing per bullet. I was getting shredded by two pilots(only t1 armor so expected).. that was honestly the first time I felt what you had been preaching for the previous month haha.. literally nothing I could do, the scout doesn't even scratch the pilot. I could hit him all day because he'd lazy hover knowing damn well 80% of the playerbase can't do shit.



also, ig the tanks I was seeing is exploits of sorts.. to the point of the blue experiment; lol...? but atleast it proves it was never a "blue has the disadvantage" it's just "blue is gay, but I make more money so blue is win" illusions.

edit, saw this thought it would be enjoyed


Yeah that guy led the "AA is too overpowered" crusade and was doing that regularly. There's a bunch of other players like that and they either go like 75 and 5 or they go 15 and 10 and leave the server if the server amasses AA. The thing about AA is that it's ONLY good against AIR, unlike some shit like C4/RPG's/MAAWS you can kill people, blow up walls with. Verbas/Talons have on function and you have to commit to make them worth it.

So far so good, just releveling shit and have to get a fucking big hammer so I can make mortars to counter the constant drilling of other teams.
 

gauze

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I'm just glad the ciws is doodoo against structures now. That shit was way too annoying, the amount of times I saw people just build a ciws to break into a base wasn't a ton but it was a lot.
 

Mao

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The problem with helicopters, and to a lesser extent the artillery tanks etc, is you will never be able to balance them well enough that they are fun and enjoyable for your average guy without being OP in the hands of skilled pilots. They have a near global presence and can go anywhere. If they run out of ammo its just fly back. They counter nearly everything, but are only countered by specific things. They are capable of having far more effect on the game than nearly anything else. Top assaulter, all lvl4 armor with the FAL with all the best upgrades? He might be a demon, but he has to worry about any thing in the game killing him. Grenades, rockets, bullets etc, and he has to walk to wherever the fuck he needs to go and can only shoot what he can see on the way.

Helos can just zip around and cover the whole battle space and kill anyone and everything in the game (Not certain if the mini can kill tanks and APCs, but I think it can do the APC) while only being countered really by Verbas and MAAWS, or stuff in a FOB they can avoid. Verba is shit and MAAW is a skill shot. We'll have to see how the AA tank fares.

But yeah. Helos give 1 person way too much effect on the battlespace compared to any other kit in the game.
 

Xevy

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Tanka are a problem right now, but C4 runners should help. Cheaters are a huge problem as well. Had between 3 and 4 in one game on different teams, even. The guy being carried by two cheaters commed in ALL to report the other guys for cheating. Hilarious. They all had 200+ ping on a West server and one was a Douyin streamer. Absolute shitters all.
 

Mao

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I wish you could see which maps had rain in the server browser. I am getting rain far too infrequently and wish I could pick it.
 

BrotherWu

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So players exploited the shit out of the game to the point of getting to tanks in a couple of hours and they are giving them...*checks notes*...a 24 hour ban? What is that pussy shit? Hopefully they will get a progression reset. They should get a season ban.

What I have seen so far: Little Bird Uber to the HZ and Recon are still pretty good money. Logi runs less profitable since there are fewer FOBs and you don't start with pallets. The new Wolf 110 sucks. We've also tried the Kodiak M249 and Lakota with MGs (last season) and I have yet to see anyone hit much with any of those turret guns.
 

Mao

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This game is so fucking ass in a lot of its little things. So this picture is me using free camera to show where my muzzle is in relation to the box in front of me. It is clearly above the box. You see the two dead bodies in the distance? Ok. So, once I shouldered the weapon to aim down sights, my bullets went into the box in front of me. I was close enough to the box I didn't even have room for my muzzle to point forward cause it would have been in the box.

Just for clarification when the engagement happened I was a lil farther to the left and forward so my gun was literally pointing over the top of the box and by position, should have been resting on top of it. Just, afterwards I tucked in and tried to get the screenshot cause I was so pissed. I could clearly see my picatinny's when aiming and they were above the box. I mean fuck it, when you aim down sights your fucking rifle comes up to your shoulder, not you down to it.

They are trying to do the scope over barrel parallax, and I get it. But holy fuck do they just have it wrong.

Also Ural somehow drives worse this patch. I don't get it. Prolly time to take a break :D
 

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BrotherWu

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This game is so fucking ass in a lot of its little things. So this picture is me using free camera to show where my muzzle is in relation to the box in front of me. It is clearly above the box. You see the two dead bodies in the distance? Ok. So, once I shouldered the weapon to aim down sights, my bullets went into the box in front of me. I was close enough to the box I didn't even have room for my muzzle to point forward cause it would have been in the box.

Just for clarification when the engagement happened I was a lil farther to the left and forward so my gun was literally pointing over the top of the box and by position, should have been resting on top of it. Just, afterwards I tucked in and tried to get the screenshot cause I was so pissed. I could clearly see my picatinny's when aiming and they were above the box. I mean fuck it, when you aim down sights your fucking rifle comes up to your shoulder, not you down to it.

They are trying to do the scope over barrel parallax, and I get it. But holy fuck do they just have it wrong.

Also Ural somehow drives worse this patch. I don't get it. Prolly time to take a break :D

They really need a key to rest your weapon on geometry. But, yeah, I have had weird shit like this too. I know EA doesn't mean much these days but it ain't bad for EA.

I intended to experiment with driving as main to try out some of the new vehicles but I don't know if I am going to stay with that. I didn't even buy a Ural yet because I'd have to pop to unlock it as well as all the pallets. I don't know what it is off the top of my head but probably 100k or more? So far I have just seen piles of unused pallets laying at unbuilt or abandoned FOBs. If it is even more squirrely to drive that I am glad I didn't buy it.
 

Mao

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They really need a key to rest your weapon on geometry. But, yeah, I have had weird shit like this too. I know EA doesn't mean much these days but it ain't bad for EA.

I intended to experiment with driving as main to try out some of the new vehicles but I don't know if I am going to stay with that. I didn't even buy a Ural yet because I'd have to pop to unlock it as well as all the pallets. I don't know what it is off the top of my head but probably 100k or more? So far I have just seen piles of unused pallets laying at unbuilt or abandoned FOBs. If it is even more squirrely to drive that I am glad I didn't buy it.
Unfortunately, for driver XP grind it really is the only choice unless you get people to ride in your car. You can get the M249 kodiak pretty quick iirc, but there really is just a gap in other ways to grind driver.

Also apparently Ping bans are not working either. Seeing lot of people with over 200 ping. Like, holy shit. Did the devs deliver any of their S2 promises or did they fuck all of them up?
 
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Sludig

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So players exploited the shit out of the game to the point of getting to tanks in a couple of hours and they are giving them...*checks notes*...a 24 hour ban? What is that pussy shit? Hopefully they will get a progression reset. They should get a season ban.

What I have seen so far: Little Bird Uber to the HZ and Recon are still pretty good money. Logi runs less profitable since there are fewer FOBs and you don't start with pallets. The new Wolf 110 sucks. We've also tried the Kodiak M249 and Lakota with MGs (last season) and I have yet to see anyone hit much with any of those turret guns.
Just saw a gepard, forget the level, but i'm getting close to the .50 wolf

Not optimistic, very exposed, need a excellent driver, wonder how it does vs any fob emplacements? I got one shot in my humvee w/ a base 50. Base 50's the tiny bit I messed with seem really rough to place with decent coverage sans just up on a tower and hoping for minimal snipers. Mowing infantry probably a dream but I almost would try a pirate fob with 50 behind enemy base and annihlate a few trucks or possibly helo before getting taken out.

My gripe about risk reward still there, bombs free kit, humvee etc still comes to like 10k, vs a buggy free gun naked but for c4/ied is 4-5k (less if you grab free truck) results not much different but easier to come out positive. Popping a lot of fobs today though was kinda fun, but started late and taking a break for migraine.
 

Sludig

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Unfortunately, for driver XP grind it really is the only choice unless you get people to ride in your car. You can get the M249 kodiak pretty quick iirc, but there really is just a gap in other ways to grind driver.

Also apparently Ping bans are not working either. Seeing lot of people with over 200 ping. Like, holy shit. Did the devs deliver any of their S2 promises or did they fuck all of them up?
Nervous about getting targeted for trouble as that's how exploiters were doing the faster truck grind is dropping 4x crates edge of cz rather than fob or something basically empty. So I try to bring at least 500 in random crap, still slow in ural since nothing else carries more than 1. Humvee not helping much since infantry all know to tire it immediately. Gun kodiak is just suicide. 50 truck I'm hoping can at least kill defensive fob stuff,

Saw a gepard, tried to see if 2x c4 would blow from behind but that lovely 3rd person cam gave me away and game ended b4 I could keep chasing.
 

Mao

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I have no idea why it quoted you. I misclicked, erased and reloaded the page and... it dropped this. vOv
Nervous about getting targeted for trouble as that's how exploiters were doing the faster truck grind is dropping 4x crates edge of cz rather than fob or something basically empty. So I try to bring at least 500 in random crap, still slow in ural since nothing else carries more than 1. Humvee not helping much since infantry all know to tire it immediately. Gun kodiak is just suicide. 50 truck I'm hoping can at least kill defensive fob stuff,

Saw a gepard, tried to see if 2x c4 would blow from behind but that lovely 3rd person cam gave me away and game ended b4 I could keep chasing.
I wouldn't worry about the Ural exploits. The dropping stuff just outside the starting zone has been fixed. Running pallets to the FOB is fine and perfectly acceptable. I get absolute shit for dropping the crates and if people buy from them its support XP, not driver. So just suck it up, get in the Ural and drive pallets. Unless you can convince a whole lot of people to ride in your truck to the front it seems to be the only real way to get driver XP (aside from snaking the APC).

3rd person camera is a thing. They added rain, and if you first person in the heli's it washes out almost all vision. No effect on 3rd person though. So maybe tougher to shoot, but yeah.
 
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Xevy

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They definitely fucked with prone shoot, I've been flat on a crate top or something and aimed down just to shoot every bullet 4 inches under my scope. Maybe they're trying to fix eyebrow shooting and they fucked up by lowering the outgoing fire cone, a dev classic.