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No. Because Christ is objectively superior to what you are proselytizing. Which is a variant of discard everything, embrace only what "mainstream" has cast aside, and look inward alone. Add in doing drugs now and again to achieve an enlightened state of mind. Along with reading Eastern Philosophy because it's better as it's not Christian philosophy.

Arguing that "something may exist that is better" as a reason to not have faith is silly and not an argument about anything. The angle of this discussion is distinctly anti-Christian as means to seek inner peace, enlightenment, and fulfillment. As the discussion revolves around discarding that so you can find the True Thing that can't be attached to anything.
 

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You are not a mystic, holy man, or a monk. You're just another white collar-ish retard like myself bro.
 
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Julian The Apostate

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You are not a mystic, holy man, or a monk. You're just another white collar-ish retard like myself bro.
Agreed, I didn't claim to be, im a construction worker waking up from 20 years of atheism and growing spritually. Im referring to the fact that mystics from Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Etc all report the same experiences despite different times, religions, and cultures.
 
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Your spiritual awakening is a good thing. Just be careful to protect it. Bad actors will try to exploit it. See my sig. That's Clement of Alexandria's warning. Christ will keep you centered.

 
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Your spiritual awakening is a good thing. Just be careful to protect it. Bad actors will try to exploit it. See my sig. That's Clement of Alexandria's warning. Christ will keep you centered.


I think this is VERY important!!! I found patterns and manipulation in existing religions that lead me to Atheism and then I found the same patterns of patterns and manipulation in science and have come to my existing stance. Really all that I did was to change one deep state construct for a more modern construct several times now. My current views now are now just another construct that I have created as a model to predict reality. My views are still evolving daily and so should everyones.

Do not think I am here to proselytize, I want everyone to be completely skeptical of everything I say. If anything I just want people to understand everything is much different reality is from what we have been lead to believe.

If anyone here reading this ties their sense of identity and morality to any modern institutions or individuals it is going to be in for a very rough ride. We should all be looking to break the chains of manipulation and focus on being the best versions of ourselves and guide our families and communities toward the Christ consciousness of love, unity, and peace. Or maybe that’s just all bullshit and it’s time to water the tree of Liberty, if such a concept actually exists.

Either way I will never be afraid to asks the questions, not matter how blasphemous they sound to people and how counter-intuitive they seem.

I identify with Jesus and Buddhas message of peace and Love but I try to separate what they said from who they are and the current iteration of their respective religious movements.

Trust no one, especially people on this board, especially when you hear them spewing the same misinformation. Hard to grasp just how evil and ubiquitous it all is.
 
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Incase you guys haven’t noticed what I’ve been trying to do in this thread is to build a narrative of a control system that took divinity and self worth away from the individual and put it in the hands of a corrupt institutions and priest class.

Along the way I’ve been taking about some key pieces to the puzzle from holographic universe, UFO disclosure, quantum and consciousness studies, that helped me piece it together and, hopefully, challenging people’s long held assumptions.
 
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Do you give any credence to the creation account in Genesis, not as historical record, but as revealing fundamental patterns and symbols?
 

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Do you give any credence to the creation account in Genesis, not as historical record, but as revealing fundamental patterns and symbols?
Yeah, very much so and also the Book of Enoch, which i haven't read, supposedly expands a lot of covered up history with the giants and fallen angels. I think the symbology surrounding the garden of eden and and the serpent is very interesting. Symbology is VERY important in all this in ways I don't understand well at all. Also all these elites revere or consider Paradise Lost to be very important, I'm not 100% sure and I've never read it.

Our entire cosmology has been distorted. Get prepared to talk about weird things like everything, like planetary bodies and rocks having consciousness, astrology, bigfoot and other cryptids, all the phenomena attached to a global universal consciousness, and weirder. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the flat earth movement was a psyop to stigmatize all conspiracy theorists either.



I think alot of whats in the Bible sounds crazy because we live under a false paradigm but I think it was also manipulated so I take it all with a grain of salt. I still filter everything through my own intuition with the principles of honesty, integrity, and service to others. I also think that humanitys consciousness is supposed to evolve and improve over time, I dont think the Ten Commandments are the "end all be all" of human morality, in fact they seem pretty outdated to me.
 
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Was Adam receiving creation as gift and offering it back to God in praise and thanksgiving?
 

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So I had a weird morning, and I figured I'd post in this thread instead of the weird Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant one in the general section.

I smoked some weed this morning and everything clicked for me. I feel like a had a spiritual awakening. I've never been religious, and growing up basically shunned the entire thing. But this morning, I made the connection to Jesus Christ and God. They say everyone's relationship to Christ is different, but I got the message loud and clear. And as of today I can call myself a Christian. The entire thing feels weird and like I'm joining a club that was out in the open this entire time, whose only requirement was acceptance. It's even more bizarre that I've been just looking up random scripture and stuff and it all just kind of makes sense now.

That's it. I've lived a moral and good life up until this point, but now I get what people talk about as accepting Jesus. Wild morning.
 
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So I had a weird morning, and I figured I'd post in this thread instead of the weird Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant one in the general section.

I smoked some weed this morning and everything clicked for me. I feel like a had a spiritual awakening. I've never been religious, and growing up basically shunned the entire thing. But this morning, I made the connection to Jesus Christ and God. They say everyone's relationship to Christ is different, but I got the message loud and clear. And as of today I can call myself a Christian. The entire thing feels weird and like I'm joining a club that was out in the open this entire time, whose only requirement was acceptance. It's even more bizarre that I've been just looking up random scripture and stuff and it all just kind of makes sense now.

That's it. I've lived a moral and good life up until this point, but now I get what people talk about as accepting Jesus. Wild morning.
How have the past few days been for you since Thursday morning? For you, what are the implications of accepting Jesus??
 

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How have the past few days been for you since Thursday morning? For you, what are the implications of accepting Jesus??
It's been incredibly positive. Just my outlook on everything has been more joyful. It's made me appreciate everything a lot more.
 
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anyone here deep into meditation to aware me on the changes and bemefits that brought to his life?
let him present himself and speak


i tried it years ago while quitin smoking
worked great
dont know y stopped it
 

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Waking up to the reality which we live can be pretty overwhelming and leave you wondering where to start to make positive changes in your life and for the greater good. Our entire society has been engineered to make us fat, lazy, stupid, and dependent.

One of the sobering realities is that the same companies that own food production also own all the chemical productions that jams our food full of unhealthy chemicals. They also set the standards and norms in American culture and promotes three meals a day. Three meals a days full of chemicals and pesticides make us sick. Then we do to the doctor. All the hospitals, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies are owned by the same corporations. Even procedures like biopsies and monograms actually end up spreading cancer throughout the body. This system makes us sick and then profits off of high cost, long term treatments like chemotherapy while sidelining cheaper effective treatments.


The first step is reclaiming the health of our own bodies. I think Jesus came here to tell us, in part, that the kingdom of God is within and the best way to communicate with God is directly to him with out the need for intermediaries. That’s why he said our body is a temple. Here’s what I’ve been trying to to do to treat it as such. Make no mistake, the entire point of the society in which we live is to keep us separated from God. Don’t reward corporations that don’t give a shit about you for your family with your money.


1. Start some kind of yearly deworming protocol- hundreds of years ago our doctors recommended yearly deworming. We have gotten away from it because we were sold a bunch of bullshit about how we don’t need to anymore because of modern refrigeration. That’s bullshit. If you don’t deworm you are likely loaded with parasites that are having a large negative impact on your health. Ivermectin and fenbenzanole are a good combo to look into. Obviously, I’m not claiming to be a medical professional so do your own research. For natural options a combo of cloves, wormwood, and black walnut husks seem to be what a lot of people recommend.

2. Start fasting - There’s a reason Jesus told us to do this. It’s natures way of healing the body. When you fast, your body all of a sudden doesn’t have to fight off all the chemicals from the three meals a days of sugar and bullshit and it can actually heal itself. Don’t use any bullshit products, just plenty of filtered water and salt. Days 2-4 of a fast, after your body uses up its sugar stores your body switches to burning fat. During this time your body also does a thing called autophagy where it starts to use up damaged and pre-cancerous cell for energy. You want to do a 2-4 day fast a couple times a year. I plan on fasting one day a week or atleast a couple days a month.

The best way to work into fasting is to start with 8 hr intermittent fasting for a month, 4 hr intermittent fasting for 2 weeks, then one meal a day for awhile and then you’ll be ready for your first fast day. It’s also about taking your control back and removing fear. I did a 96 hour fast myself after working up to it over time, wasn’t too bad at all. It’s nice to be able to go a day without eating without getting hyperglycemic and feeling like I’m gonna die. I can go two days without food now without even thinking about it. It makes it really easy to turn down fast food when you’re hungry, you can wait till you get home. I really only plan to eat one meal a day. I don’t think three meals a day are healthy. Save money and get healthy.

3. start eating clean- don’t eat anything that comes in a bag or a can or anything that you don’t understand all th ingredients. Forget any of the “conventional” thinking about anything related to food, nutrition, and diet, all bullshit. Declare war on sugar, even fruit in extreme moderation. Never buy meat, or anything if you can help it, from a grocery chain. Always buy from a local butcher and vegetables from local sellers if possible. Wash everything very well to remove as much of the pesticides as possible. Start saving chicken and beef bones and making your own stocks from those scraps and the scraps of any vegetables you use during the week.

The easiest way to start eating clean is directly after a fast. The best way to break a fast, imo, is to have some homemade bone/veg broth. Two hours later you should have some feta cheese, peanuts, and some honey. Two hours later you should have some pasture raised chicken with some asparagus. Just and example but that’s really the only kind of food you should ever eat. Nothing bagged or packed, nothing canned. Use as much salt and good fat as you want. Only use butter, clarified butter, coconut, avocado, beef tallow, and EVOO to cook with. Throw out all your other oils especially canola and vegetable oil. Start learning how to grow and can your own food. Learn how to ferment. Start with sauerkraut and/or a simple garlic/honey ferment. The natural probiotics you get from that stuff is way better, imo, that any probiotic product you can buy in the store. Only drink water you filtered yourself, don’t trust bottled water.

4. Declare war on micro plastics. Seriously this shit is a huge problem. Throw away all of your plastic wear. Only use glass, copper, medical grade stainless or other safe alternatives. Throw away all your Tupperware and get mason jars to store food in, etc. NEVER microwave or have any hot food or drink touching plastic. Stop drinking coffee from places that give you a paper cup. That paper cup has a plastic liner that deteriorates when hot coffee is put in and tons of plastic material floats to the top that you can visually see. Same with any coffee brewed out of a Kuerig coffee maker, throw them away. Get anal about it and do what you can. It’s impossible to get totally away from plastic so you do what you can to eliminate 95% of microplastic intake and just make it a lifestyle and then don’t worry about it to much.

Only wear cotton, wool, and other natural fibers. Get rid of all plastic clothing, plastics and chemicals from that stuff end up in your body. Always be mindful of what touches your body or goes into it.



5. Get rid of WiFi. Use only wired connections at home. Ideally get rid of internet altogether, reclaim your attention. Tv and internet have been nothing but propaganda and programming to separate us from God and make us easier to control since their inception. The further you live from any kind of cell phone tower the better. Sleep with your phone in another room, turn off mobile data when you can.

6 try to eliminate heavy metals and chemical contact. Fluoride and aluminum are not our friends. I’m starting to look into making my own soap and toothpaste. The stuff in the stores is toxic as fuck. Baking soda and coconut oil is a safe alternative to toothpaste tha I’m going to try. Start using binders to detox existing heavy metals in your body. Do not cook with any non-stick. Get some stainless, carbon, or cast and take pride in learning how to keep it maintained.
These people are declaring war on sunshine. Ask yourself why that is. Reconsider wearing sun screen and sunglasses. Consider how those two things might effect normal healthy biological processes involving our bodies interactions with the sun.


Again, I make no claims to be a medical professional and you should do you own research about this, and anything else I say, and make your own conclusions. Start making changes. When you’re fat, lazy, dependent and full of microplastics and heavy metals and glued to the Tv, computer, or phone you are not helpful to anyone but the engineers of the system.

I’ve been doing all the stuff above and have lost 50lbs in the last 8 months and feel better than ever. Do the shit above and add in some light squats, deadlift, press, bent over rows and pull ups with good form a day or two a week and thank me later. Building and maintaining leg strength is one of the most important things you can do to age gracefully.
 
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Julian The Apostate

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So I had a weird morning, and I figured I'd post in this thread instead of the weird Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant one in the general section.

I smoked some weed this morning and everything clicked for me. I feel like a had a spiritual awakening. I've never been religious, and growing up basically shunned the entire thing. But this morning, I made the connection to Jesus Christ and God. They say everyone's relationship to Christ is different, but I got the message loud and clear. And as of today I can call myself a Christian. The entire thing feels weird and like I'm joining a club that was out in the open this entire time, whose only requirement was acceptance. It's even more bizarre that I've been just looking up random scripture and stuff and it all just kind of makes sense now.

That's it. I've lived a moral and good life up until this point, but now I get what people talk about as accepting Jesus. Wild morning.
Thanks so much or sharing man. Made my day when I read this. How have you been doing lately? Any updates you can share?