Weight Loss Thread

Kuro said:

Keto did help out when I decided to try to un-trainwreck my body, not because it was magical, but because it was easy as shit to manage, and when you're trying to fix a half dozen habits/problems with your life at once (which the kind of people I mostly see go on keto are, since it's usually someone looking in the mirror and going "Jesus fuck what is my life") reducing the mental load of individual habit changes helps reduce the chances of going "this is all overwhelming, fuck it I'm out." just grab a fist sized chunk of meat, maybe a slice of cheese, and a bag of steamed veg and you're done planning your meal. Greens and meat have much more consistent physical size to calorie equivalents.

I would have probably gotten better results with a measured out balanced meal planning, but when I was changing eating behavior, exercise behavior, and career field at the same time, I was thankful for the simplicity

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Lumi said:

A lot of people say they're fasting but actually aren't. They think they can drink fruit juice or coffee or an energy drink or have a tiny snack during their 16 hour fasting period but the reality is if you're consuming basically anything other than water, you're not actually fasting. You can't chew gum, you can't drink even a zero calorie energy drink or even have a single potato chip. So I'm curious how many people here aren't actually fasting but think they are.

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Oblio said:

Bro it's totally okay. I only drink soda while fasting, but the soda is FLAT.

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The co-primary outcomes were weight loss and fat loss. Secondary outcomes included blood pressure, heart rate, glucose levels, insulin levels, and plasma lipid levels.

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Effectiveness of Early Time-Restricted Eating for Weight Loss, Fat Loss, and Cardiometabolic Health in Adults With Obesity: A Randomized Clinical Trial - PubMed

ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT03459703.

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Lumi said:

A lot of people say they're fasting but actually aren't. They think they can drink fruit juice or coffee or an energy drink or have a tiny snack during their 16 hour fasting period but the reality is if you're consuming basically anything other than water, you're not actually fasting. You can't chew gum, you can't drink even a zero calorie energy drink or even have a single potato chip. So I'm curious how many people here aren't actually fasting but think they are.

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Hoss said:

I've never heard anyone claim that black coffee breaks the fast. The one doctor I've heard talk about it said anything under 50 calories isn't breaking your fast. It pauses it but your body quickly gets back to it.

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Oblio said:

Dude it's Lumi, you don't debate him you mock him.

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Lumi said:

Eh there are a couple exceptions that are debatable but most agree that fasting should just be water as that will guarantee the purest and best possible results.

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Animosity said:

Black coffee has been proven to not break a fast.

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Lumi said:

Ya that's fine but I wouldn't drink too much of it because it's pretty acidic.

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LiquidDeath said:

Please stop listening to the "LoL, it's just calories in vs calories out' people. It is a tautological argument. Of course it is about calories in versus calories out because it has to be, that is the mechanism of weight loss. That is like saying the amount of water in a sink is all about how much water you are putting into it versus how much you are draining. Of fucking course it is, that is the mechanism of filling a sink.

Your body isn't a blast calorimeter. You don't put a lump of food into your body and then have it incinerated into an amount of calories that are either spent or stored. You ingest food and break it down through a complicated digestion process that is heavily influenced by your hormones and the composition of the calories ingested. If it was as simple as the CI/CO crowd states, then it would be trivially easy to determine exactly how many calories are burned doing various activities as well as exactly how much waste someone would generate. But it isn't that easy, and we can't do that because it is most definitely not simply adding the numbers from the boxes and subtracting the numbers on the treadmill.

Weight loss is about relentlessly experimenting with your diet to figure out the best way to for you personally to control over-consumption based on your genetics and personality. There is no denying that it is possible for a subset of people to eat whatever they want all the time and not gain weight. There is another subset that is okay with being hungry all the time and prefer to eat a diet that is high in shitty calories that they enjoy at the cost of not feeling satiated most of the time. Me, I hate being hungry so I've settled on a diet where I eat as much as I fucking want every day of foods that I mostly enjoy while also designating one day a week of eating complete trash that I know isn't good for me but is delicious. This method allows me to stay lean while not feeling like I'm sacrificing anything, thus it is sustainable for life. I'll probably have to modify this approach the older I get as my hormone profile will change with age, but at 41 it works. Figure out what type of person you are then experiment to see what your genetics will let you get away with. It is the only real way to keep your weight under control for the rest of your life.

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