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So today's entry in "The surprise expenses never stop"...

Had the rear passenger tire in my caddy losing around 1lb of pressure every couple days, I believe if you recall I talked about this before in here and they found and fixed a flat (screw in the tire). It started again. I figured with the amount of construction going on around my neighborhood (between road construction and homes being torn down and rebuilt) I probably picked up another and just didn't find it when I was looking.

Take it in, the tire place checks it out. I'm at home and I get a text from them that's a receipt for a "0$ flat fix" so I head over to pick up my car. When I get there the guy tells me "Yeah, we had to ring up something to clear the work order on it. The actual problem is you have a cracked rim."

Now I'm once again having the debate of "just buy a replacement OEM wheel" since I like these wheels, buy a fresh set of 4 after market rims (which not surprisingly isn't that much more expensive than one Caddy OEM wheel), Or pop the tire/wheel off and take it around the corner to the non-descript wheel shop running out of the back of a Mexican Flea Market and have them weld the wheel...

Thinking the flea market is going to win while I debate the other options...
Definitely take it to a rim shop, you'd be shocked at what they can fix.

My kid hit a pothole big enough to break the lower suspension arm in my older model S over the weekend. Both right side tires and rims toast. Thats life man.
 
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So today's entry in "The surprise expenses never stop"...

Had the rear passenger tire in my caddy losing around 1lb of pressure every couple days, I believe if you recall I talked about this before in here and they found and fixed a flat (screw in the tire). It started again. I figured with the amount of construction going on around my neighborhood (between road construction and homes being torn down and rebuilt) I probably picked up another and just didn't find it when I was looking.

Take it in, the tire place checks it out. I'm at home and I get a text from them that's a receipt for a "0$ flat fix" so I head over to pick up my car. When I get there the guy tells me "Yeah, we had to ring up something to clear the work order on it. The actual problem is you have a cracked rim."

Now I'm once again having the debate of "just buy a replacement OEM wheel" since I like these wheels, buy a fresh set of 4 after market rims (which not surprisingly isn't that much more expensive than one Caddy OEM wheel), Or pop the tire/wheel off and take it around the corner to the non-descript wheel shop running out of the back of a Mexican Flea Market and have them weld the wheel...

Thinking the flea market is going to win while I debate the other options...
Fix the wheel. If it cannot be fixed, buy a used one.
 

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Definitely take it to a rim shop, you'd be shocked at what they can fix.

My kid hit a pothole big enough to break the lower suspension arm in my older model S over the weekend. Both right side tires and rims toast. Thats life man.
I've actually had this shop fix a different rim for me before. Cool guy and simple cracks are usually $30-50. Just annoyed that now my side project tomorrow morning will be taking the wheel off and hauling it up there in the wife's car.
 

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So today's entry in "The surprise expenses never stop"...

Had the rear passenger tire in my caddy losing around 1lb of pressure every couple days, I believe if you recall I talked about this before in here and they found and fixed a flat (screw in the tire). It started again. I figured with the amount of construction going on around my neighborhood (between road construction and homes being torn down and rebuilt) I probably picked up another and just didn't find it when I was looking.

Take it in, the tire place checks it out. I'm at home and I get a text from them that's a receipt for a "0$ flat fix" so I head over to pick up my car. When I get there the guy tells me "Yeah, we had to ring up something to clear the work order on it. The actual problem is you have a cracked rim."

Now I'm once again having the debate of "just buy a replacement OEM wheel" since I like these wheels, buy a fresh set of 4 after market rims (which not surprisingly isn't that much more expensive than one Caddy OEM wheel), Or pop the tire/wheel off and take it around the corner to the non-descript wheel shop running out of the back of a Mexican Flea Market and have them weld the wheel...

Thinking the flea market is going to win while I debate the other options...
Please don’t repair it. I know it can be done, but wheels, tires, and brakes are just things you can’t be frugal about.

I would also suggest having your other wheels checked for a crack. If one has it, it’s very possible another does, or is close to, because they are rolling over the same thing.
 
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Yeah we have zero car inspections in Indiana. First thing big truck boys do here is remove the catalytic converter. “Where’s your sticker?” lol
 

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The most exciting racing I've ever watched, started last year and didn't expect it to be good. Race 1 just ended, Race 2 tomorrow.

 
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There is a really nice 850i for sale (2021), it is nearly full option with 50k miles.

I'm tempted even if the road tax in first year is 9k and 3.5k / year after that.

I bought the M440i because I know 3l petrol is not going to be a thing in the future.

4.4l is beyond what I hoped for. It is just a terrible financial choice. I know what the rational choice is, and I don't like it.
 
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There is a really nice 850i for sale (2021), it is nearly full option with 50k miles.

I'm tempted even if the road tax in first year is 9k and 3.5k / year after that.

I bought the M440i because I know 3l petrol is not going to be a thing in the future.

4.4l is beyond what I hoped for. It is just a terrible financial choice. I know what the rational choice is, and I don't like it.
Maybe overthrow your shit UK government and stop being less free/more taxed than even North Korea?
 
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There is a really nice 850i for sale (2021), it is nearly full option with 50k miles.

I'm tempted even if the road tax in first year is 9k and 3.5k / year after that.

I bought the M440i because I know 3l petrol is not going to be a thing in the future.

4.4l is beyond what I hoped for. It is just a terrible financial choice. I know what the rational choice is, and I don't like it.
Are you afraid the illegal Muslim homeless invaders on the side of the road aren't going to think you are the richest chav to drive by them this week? Did you try vinyl wrapping your current, almost new, vehicle with pictures of your cloths?
 
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Are you afraid the illegal Muslim homeless invaders on the side of the road aren't going to think you are the richest chav to drive by them this week? Did you try vinyl wrapping your current, almost new, vehicle with pictures of your cloths?

Exactly this, spot on.
 

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Well, I guess importing a car from the GCC and then registering it isn’t as easy as I hoped. Google and chatGPT made it seem cut and dry.
 

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Are you afraid the illegal Muslim homeless invaders on the side of the road aren't going to think you are the richest chav to drive by them this week? Did you try vinyl wrapping your current, almost new, vehicle with pictures of your cloths?
wow America is amazing for car ownership

  • Top EU countries: Belgium (~€2,896/year), Austria (~€2,661), Ireland (~€2,438), Finland (~€2,379), etc. (from ACEA reports up to 2025).
  • US: Typically much lower, often in the range of $100–$300/year for registration fees (varies by state; e.g., around $100–$200 in many places like Michigan or Tennessee), plus low or no dedicated annual "road tax" in most states. Some states add modest property taxes on vehicles, but it's rarely over $500–$1,000 total annually for a standard car.
compared to the faggots of the world, japan is also known to be just as shit and singapore has you file a "certificate of entitlement" form/tax for a car, lulz

i guess thats why plebs depend on public transport in countries where you can afford a car but don't want to
 

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wow America is amazing for car ownership


compared to the faggots of the world, japan is also known to be just as shit and singapore has you file a "certificate of entitlement" form/tax for a car, lulz

i guess thats why plebs depend on public transport in countries where you can afford a car but don't want to

Here in VA, registration itself is cheap, but now they throw a $200 annual cost on EVs. This is on top of the 2600 a year in stupid car property tax I pay annually for my 2020 and 2016 S. Then there's my 2k annual donation to slEZypass toll road just to get to work (the free route would add 26 miles daily)
 

Burren

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wow America is amazing for car ownership


compared to the faggots of the world, japan is also known to be just as shit and singapore has you file a "certificate of entitlement" form/tax for a car, lulz

i guess thats why plebs depend on public transport in countries where you can afford a car but don't want to
And that’s just registration. Some countries like France also tax you additionally on size of car and engine. Like, 20% to 50% or something retarded like that.
 

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And that’s just registration. Some countries like France also tax you additionally on size of car and engine. Like, 20% to 50% or something retarded like that.
jesus you pay an extra 20k for a basic wrx
For a **basic 2026 Subaru WRX** in France (the standard performance sedan with the 2.4L turbocharged flat-four Boxer engine, ~271 hp, all-wheel drive, typically manual transmission for the "enthusiast" base/Premium trim), the French government hits you **much harder** upfront than with the efficient Honda Civic hybrid. The WRX is a sporty, turbo petrol car with higher emissions and more weight, so it triggers significant **malus écologique** penalties.

Key specs for the 2026 WRX (based on available data; European WLTP figures are similar to or slightly adjusted from US/AU equivalents, but the car is sold in Europe with WLTP compliance):
- WLTP CO₂ emissions: ~225–255 g/km combined (higher for manual; Australian/European tests show around 225 g/km for manual variants, up to 255 g/km in some configs—real-world WLTP for EU-market WRX is typically in the 220–250+ g/km range due to the powerful turbo engine and AWD).
- Curb weight (masse en ordre de marche): ~1,520–1,570 kg (around 3,350–3,460 lbs for base/Premium; higher trims like tS or GT push toward 1,600+ kg, but basic is ~1,524–1,571 kg).

This puts it firmly in **penalty territory**—high CO₂ (far above the 108 g/km threshold) and over the 1,500 kg weight threshold.

### Upfront Government "Screws" (One-Time Registration Costs)
Paid when registering a new or imported car in France. These add thousands of euros beyond the car's price (~€45,000–€55,000+ for a WRX in Europe, depending on trim/import).

1. **Malus CO₂ (emissions penalty)** — €10,000–€20,000+ (often in the mid-teens thousands)
- At ~225 g/km: The 2026 barème escalates steeply—e.g., around 150–180 g/km already hits several thousand €, and 225+ g/km pushes well into 5-figure territory (exact depends on precise WLTP for the trim; manuals tend higher).
- For 192+ g/km: Up to the max €80,000 cap, but realistic for WRX is **€15,000–€25,000** range based on similar high-emission sports cars.
- In dollars (rough 1.08 USD/€ mid-2026 rate): **$16,200–$27,000+**.

2. **Malus au Poids (weight penalty)** — €1,000–€3,000+
- Over 1,500 kg threshold (basic WRX ~1,520–1,570 kg excess: 20–70 kg).
- Progressive: Starts at €10/kg excess (first brackets), but even small excess adds up—e.g., 50 kg excess ≈ €500–€1,000+ depending on exact bracket placement. Higher trims (heavier) could hit €2,000+.
- Combined CO₂ + weight capped at €80,000 total, but WRX doesn't hit the cap.
- In dollars: **$1,080–$3,240+**.

3. **Carte Grise (registration certificate) base fees** — €300–€600+ total
- **Taxe régionale**: Based on fiscal horsepower (puissance fiscale / CV fiscaux). For the WRX's 2.4L turbo (high power), typically **10–14 CV** (formula weights power/emissions heavily). Regional rate €42–€60 per CV → €420–€840.
- Fixed extras: ~€11–€14 management + stamps/delivery.
- In dollars: Roughly **$325–$650** (higher in Paris/Île-de-France region).

**Total government hit upfront (malus CO₂ + malus poids + carte grise extras)**: Roughly **€12,000–€25,000+** (low end for base manual in lower-emission config/cheap region; high end for loaded trim or confirmed higher WLTP).
**In USD**: About **$13,000–$27,000+** (often $15,000–$20,000 realistic for a standard WRX).

### Ongoing/Annual "Screws" (Compared to Tennessee's ~$80–$90 flat registration)
- No annual road tax, but:
- **Crit'Air vignette**: ~€3–€5 one-time. WRX (recent petrol) gets **Crit'Air 1** (green, allowed in ZFEs/low-emission zones). No bans/fines.
- **Contrôle technique** (inspection): €70–€90 (~$75–$97) every 2 years after 4 years.
- Other indirect: Higher insurance (performance car + AWD + urban risks), potential fuel taxes sting more with poor economy (~10–12 L/100km real-world).

**Bottom line**: For a 2026 Subaru WRX in France, the government **screws you pretty hard** upfront—adding **$15,000–$25,000+** in registration penalties/taxes (mostly from high CO₂ malus, plus weight and regional fees). It's positioned as a "fun but polluting" car, so France heavily taxes it to discourage buyers toward efficient/electric options. After that, ongoing is similar to other cars (low annual beyond inspection/sticker).

In Tennessee terms: You'd pay ~$80/year flat, no drama. In France, the WRX costs you a big chunk extra once for its performance/emissions/weight—thousands more than the Civic, which barely gets dinged. If importing or buying used (already French-registered), you might dodge some/full malus, but new/import hits full force.

For exacts on a specific trim/VIN, run it through the official service-public.fr simulator (enter WLTP CO₂, exact weight from carte grise field G.1, and your region). Let me know the trim (e.g., manual base vs. tS) or if it's the wagon variant for a tighter estimate!
 
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Well, I guess importing a car from the GCC and then registering it isn’t as easy as I hoped. Google and chatGPT made it seem cut and dry.
I've never looked into it that closely, but my understanding is you'd have to pass emissions if under 25 years old, which probably would be a pain in the ass. I'd assume second GCC issue is shipping - are there really any outgoing container ships? I figure the only thing outbound is oil.

Curious what you're trying to get. I assume some SUV like a Land Cruiser? Any reason you don't want to go with Japan or maybe Mexico? I could see RHD for Japan.
 

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I've never looked into it that closely, but my understanding is you'd have to pass emissions if under 25 years old, which probably would be a pain in the ass. I'd assume second GCC issue is shipping - are there really any outgoing container ships? I figure the only thing outbound is oil.

Curious what you're trying to get. I assume some SUV like a Land Cruiser? Any reason you don't want to go with Japan or maybe Mexico? I could see RHD for Japan.
Shipping in a container is the easy part . Roughly $7k and 4-6 weeks.

The car is identical to a US version except for bumper sensors and reflectors.

1 of 1 MSO 675LT. It just doesn’t exist here, unfortunately.
 
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