Whats rustling your jimmies?

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RobXIII_sl said:
I havent looked up the stats on Wounded Warriors, but while I was in Alaska a few years back, theyd take a few old vets out on a couple of Bison hunts.

I don't give anything to charity anymore, partly because I'm cheap, and partly because most of them have well over 50% '''overhead''' lol
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It was within the last year or two. It really caused a huge backlash from the outdoors community etc...The final straw was they pulled support of a wounded warrior project where they were having a giant competitive skeet shoot. I know in the past here they ran a lot of guided fishing trips thru wounded warrior and that pretty much went away after all. Several of the guides here have articles in the paper often about taking a wounded soldier fishing but it's no longer tied to wounded warrior.
 
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Palum_sl said:
OR she'll call the cops.

The ALS charity bullshit really rustles my jimmies as well after a fashion. About 5-6 years ago there was a little girl who needed money for a costly, urgent treatment for something (maybe cancer? I don't recall exactly). Long story short a local business decided to make this retarded fundraiser pledge thing where they would donate a nickle or something for every aluminum can tab donated within the 2 week period before she needed it or would (I guess) die. Basically everyone was like "oh that's awful" but no one was collecting can tabs fast enough as this little girl was running out of time since it was a fairly small town and summer break meant no school donations. Everyone eventually started going apeshit to get can tabs, pitching in to buy pallets of cheap cola and de-tabbing the cans and dumping the contents. It was fucking lunacy and as the deadline neared a bunch of coworkers started getting pissy if you weren't bringing in enough tabs each day towards this asshole company that could have simply donated the money to help and got a good news story out of it. Everything got shitty when it failed, as I recall the company extended the campaign but everyone pretty much ignored the idiots jumping through hoops to collect can tabs instead of just, you know, everyone fucking just donating the money. I think the hospital ended up covering part of it that wasn't raised or what not.

Pretty much exposed everything I hate about crackpot charities and idiotic marketing campaigns tied to saving lives. This ice bucket challenge just reminds me of the same shit: retarded people who truly wouldn't care otherwise latching onto some giant social movement inspired donation spree for a nebulous goal. Same shit about people going 'YOU DON'T CARE!!!!!! VILLAIN' if you don't buy into the stupid ass game these companies are putting you through to 'raise money'.
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Not talking about leaving marks. Well, maybe some slap marks on her ass. But whatever, you don't have to worry about the cops unless you're an idiot.

The can tab thing rustled my jimmies too. Because it didn't take long before no one knew why they were collecting them. The first time I heard about it was when I was akid, I heard that recycling places were giving $50-$100 per gallon for them because the metal was purer than the rest of the cans. So I collected a couple gallons, and commenced to finding a recycling center who'd give more for them. Needless to say, there were none, so I started trying to track down where the shit got started, and I soon found out about the little girl with cancer. Since then, I've had a couple of times at work where people were collecting tabs for cancer treatments. I always find out who started it and try to find out who is actually donating the treatments, but no one ever knows. Seriously, some cunt puts out a jug to collect them, and she doesn't even fucking know who she's going to give the tabs to.

BTW, the way I heard the original story was that it was bullshit from the beginning. People collected tabs for the girl and took it to the company that supposedly promised the treatments, and they had no idea WTF the people were talking about. But after hearing the story, they donated the money anyway.
 
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Double post. Might as well break the quotes up

Borzak_sl said:
It was within the last year or two. It really caused a huge backlash from the outdoors community etc...The final straw was they pulled support of a wounded warrior project where they were having a giant competitive skeet shoot. I know in the past here they ran a lot of guided fishing trips thru wounded warrior and that pretty much went away after all. Several of the guides here have articles in the paper often about taking a wounded soldier fishing but it's no longer tied to wounded warrior.
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I'm guessing it stopped when that one guy went apeshit and killed someone on the range.

Former Navy SEAL, Author Killed at Gun Range

The article doesn't specifically say it, but I think they were there as part of the wounded warrior project. Chris Kyle definitely worked with WW. So, hate on them for the decision if you wish, but I find it hard to blame them. Personally, I think it would be better if they just said no more shooting activities for PTSD cases.
 
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Big Phoenix_sl said:
Its actually worse;

America's Worst Charities

Of course weve had this very same discussion before.
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How does a list of the worst charities prove anything? I can just as easily post a list of the best run charities and claim that proves that all charities are extremely well run, wonderful organizations. He said "If you look at most charities less than 10% goes to whatever cause the rest is used for fancy parties and lining pockets". So obviously there's some sort of statistical analysis that would bear such a claim out. Where is it?

As far as the ALS Association goes, it's pretty highly rated:Charity Navigator Rating - The ALS Association

It's not perfect by any means, but 73% going to programs/services is not 10%.
 
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Eomer_sl said:
How does a list of the worst charities prove anything? I can just as easily post a list of the best run charities and claim that proves that all charities are extremely well run, wonderful organizations. He said "If you look at most charities less than 10% goes to whatever cause the rest is used for fancy parties and lining pockets". So obviously there's some sort of statistical analysis that would bear such a claim out. Where is it?

As far as the ALS Association goes, it's pretty highly rated:Charity Navigator Rating - The ALS Association

It's not perfect by any means, but 73% going to programs/services is not 10%.
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I'm still fuzzy on what a mission for 'awareness' does. At least a lot of these things purport to be putting money into research. So until you know how much goes to victims and general services (upgrading hospital facilities or homes or whatever) I would assume you are donating to make even more commercials for a very rare disease and not actually putting it towards real research. Of course now they are flush with cash, so we'll see I guess.
 
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Palum_sl said:
I'm still fuzzy on what a mission for 'awareness' does. At least a lot of these things purport to be putting money into research. So until you know how much goes to victims and general services (upgrading hospital facilities or homes or whatever) I would assume you are donating to make even more commercials for a very rare disease and not actually putting it towards real research. Of course now they are flush with cash, so we'll see I guess.
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Government research money that could theoretically be allocated to a disease >> money that could be raised via donations for a disease

It stands to reason that using money for advocacy to direct government resource allocation to your disease of choice may be more effective than just using that money for research (assuming effective advocacy).

Sorry to bring reason into a discussion about science by non scientists. I know that's not the norm in America.
 
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Ya know, I think the general idea isnt that this specific als foundation is terrible and more or less committing fraud, but that many feel good/meme type charities are bullshit that and that many charities/donation schemes are bullshit.
 
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Left work early because of chemo related side effects kicking my ass. Big time fatigue and queasiness. So I'm walking home (20 minute walk, so not bad) and I hit a massive wall of hot garbage smell. God damn it I thought I was going to projectile vomit. My jimmies were very close to being expelled violently.
 
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Thanks Fedor. I feel dumber already. God this world is going to hell!
 
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