Wheel of Time

How does the darkfriend innkeeper chick know about them, especially the "5" of them? Do the Forsaken have a listserv they run? I may be remembering things wrong, but didn't the Three Oaths predate Artur's siege of Tar Valon?

The 'y'all must be using the One Power for bleach' insane degree of pure white clothes on the White cloaks was also a bit much.

So as someone who's never read any of the books, is this shit?

Ambiturner said:

So as someone who's never read any of the books, is this shit?

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Most non book people i know seem to think it's pretty bad but not as bad as book fans feel about it. The book fans do have some valid concerns with the adaptation though. Imagine if in LotR they skipped going to Rivendale and Sam was an Elf.

Ambiturner said:

So as someone who's never read any of the books, is this shit?

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It's watchable. Maybe don't sit on the edge of your seat for it every week.

Sterling said:

Most non book people i know seem to think it's pretty bad but not as bad as book fans feel about it. The book fans do have some valid concerns with the adaptation though. Imagine if in LotR they skipped going to Rivendale and Sam was an Elf.

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Okay but this TV thread full of book readers also has like 4 pages of complaints about some guy having kids in the show when he doesn't because they flew off the handle at a poorly written "review."

Lenas said:

It's watchable. Maybe don't sit on the edge of your seat for it every week.



Okay but this TV thread full of book readers also has like 4 pages of complaints about some guy having kids in the show when he doesn't because they flew off the handle at a poorly written "review."

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I mean if that character did have kids it would be a huge change to the character. The wife thing is also pretty bad. All 3 of the boys being naive country bumpkins is a pretty big part how they interact with everyone else.

It’s no where as bad as Foundation. This is at least watchable.

Kiroy said:

i'm convinced that much like the inner monologue thing, some people can't differentiate between good and bad acting. almost like a form of aspergers

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More like that there is a level of bad acting that people are willing to tolerate, and that bar is dependent on the person.

Compounding that is that every Sci-fi or fantasy show seems to have X% of bad actors so it's par for the course.

For example, Jason Momoa is a bad actor, and yet, I was still able to get over it, and enjoy SG: Atlantis and Dune, even when he was on screen (although I couldn't continue to watch Frontier, due, in part, to his acting).

Warrik said:

It’s no where as bad as Foundation. This is at least watchable.

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Empire parts are way better than anything in this show so far.

They forgot to establish any of the characters or give me a reason to care about anything happening. The empty city was cool. Feels like a bad LOTR knockoff so far.

Foundation has 3 general storylines and the Empire part is pretty good. Certainly better than this show. However the other 2 not so much. Those are definitely some shit tier television

Foggy said:

They forgot to establish any of the characters

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Nah, they established them just fine. Rand is a coward, Mat is a lazy thief, Perrin is a sociopathic murderer, Nynaeve is a Mary Sue, and Egwene has face cancer.

Yeah the Egwene actress would definitely benefit from visiting a dermatologist.

Raes said:

Nah, they established them just fine. Rand is a coward, Mat is a lazy thief, Perrin is a sociopathic murderer, Nynaeve is a Mary Sue, and Egwene has face cancer.

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Roll credits!

Qhue said:

How does the darkfriend innkeeper chick know about them, especially the "5" of them?

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In the show she actually said that the dark one sent her visions of them in dreams.

In the books the various darkfriends they run into can sense them - unclear if it's Ta'veren'ness, Saidin usage or Baalzamon's touch.

The former is presumably the simpler version because that chick is several different characters merged together.

velk said:

In the show she actually said that the dark one sent her visions of them in dreams.

In the books the various darkfriends they run into can sense them - unclear if it's Ta'veren'ness, Saidin usage or Baalzamon's touch.

The former is presumably the simpler version because that chick is several different characters merged together.

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Ambiturner said:

So as someone who's never read any of the books, is this shit?

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The costumes, monsters and many other elements are right out of Hercules the Legendary Journeys. Except its missing the fun campiness of that show.

Take that how you will.

velk said:

In the show she actually said that the dark one sent her visions of them in dreams.

In the books the various darkfriends they run into can sense them - unclear if it's Ta'veren'ness, Saidin usage or Baalzamon's touch.

The former is presumably the simpler version because that chick is several different characters merged together.

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the ishamael POV in the books at multiple points shows him gathering large groups of dark friends in the world of dreams to show them who he is hunting.

my biggest issue is the opening focused on some dumb random shit in the first episode rather than giving rand and tam the whole adopted story arc.

they also reveal the whole dragon thing really early and totally scrub the fact that he was feared as a sort of anti christ figure with the dragons gang on doors and shit.

overall it’s not opening with a bang like got which is too bad since the material was there but it isn’t unsalvageable bad if the actors can hit their stride