VG will never take the poeple from wow since its a toy for the big public, do you really think poeple of wow will enjoy the hard leveling, corps run and death penatly? roflmoa.
Why all the nerd rage against Vanguard
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Probably not, as most people like their games to be fun =pShardokar said:
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(Before you reply Tad, I"m kidding. Mostly)
I don"t think people that are playing and enjoying VG like myself care to take people from WoW. The funny thing is the guild i am in, in Vanguard are people from a WoW guild.Shardokar said:
And that"s how it should be in an MMO. While you should be able to see some occasional nifty stuff solo (like the newbie Draenei totem quest,) most developer time and effort should be spent on things that require a group IMO.Nino said:
I agree that most things you do solo don"t need to be extraordinary. It should be entertaining if not simply because the mechanics of the game are enjoyable. I also realize that creating things for the solo person to do as well as balancing it all out, etc., is not something that just happens with the flip of a switch. However, I think (and I believe you would agree) that it"s worth the extra time and effort. Being able to advance on your own time and in your own way (even if it"s at a slower rate) should be an available option in all MMOs.
I don"t think that any rational person would think otherwise. Trying to create mechanics which would make it so that every single class is able to solo as well as the others would be incredibly difficult and simply not worth the effort.
The 2 dominating philosophies seem to be 1) you group or you do nothing or 2) solo should be as good or better than grouping. There surely is a middle ground and from what you"ve posted, it sounds like that is what y"all are aiming for. That is good to hear.
LOL please.. You can lvl while grouping, but at 66 doing lets say Mana tombs with out rest exp. is like 15-20 percent "once finished"Clug said:
when you get higher doing an instance is around 10-15 percent -
compare that to quest exp you"d be a retard to lvl with instances
Now group questing is pretty good exp
I don"t like Vanguard because it has that SOE Aura behind it.
Call me whatever you want, I"m not bashing, or flaming, someone asked the question: why all the hate? and that"s my answer.
Call me whatever you want, I"m not bashing, or flaming, someone asked the question: why all the hate? and that"s my answer.
If someone comes and says, "I didn"t really enjoy WOW all that much, it didn"t have the feel I was looking for." people wouldn"t jump all over them and beat them with teh dead horse stick.
Its usually, retards play wow, ezmode, cartoony, boring, play the kiddie game, enjoy it with the rest of the 8 year olds, etc, etc, and on and on and on. The VG forums were so full of it they had to start banning people for saying crap like that. It was like the elitist gaming snobs against the unwashed masses and it has pretty much transfered all over the place.
It didn"t help that Brad was saying WOW wouldn"t work, wouldn"t last, wouldn"t grow, etc, etc. He was kinda like the elitest snob leader, wandering around spouting crap that didn"t have a basis in any reality other than his own. Going back and looking at his quotes from a year or 2 ago is pure comedy gold and I am sure, well, not sure, but I hope he realizes what an ass he looked like. He essentially started all of the ezmode crap then had to deal with what he created when his forums started acting just like he acted.
For a lot of the common players its the rebel thing; to bash authority, bitch about the man, complain about corporations...whatever. Its sticking it to the man in the online world. BE A REBEL...with all the other rebels doing the same exact thing.
Bah...just have fun. Each of us will have opinions on these games, but they are just opinions and thusly don"t mean more than a pile of turds.
Its usually, retards play wow, ezmode, cartoony, boring, play the kiddie game, enjoy it with the rest of the 8 year olds, etc, etc, and on and on and on. The VG forums were so full of it they had to start banning people for saying crap like that. It was like the elitist gaming snobs against the unwashed masses and it has pretty much transfered all over the place.
It didn"t help that Brad was saying WOW wouldn"t work, wouldn"t last, wouldn"t grow, etc, etc. He was kinda like the elitest snob leader, wandering around spouting crap that didn"t have a basis in any reality other than his own. Going back and looking at his quotes from a year or 2 ago is pure comedy gold and I am sure, well, not sure, but I hope he realizes what an ass he looked like. He essentially started all of the ezmode crap then had to deal with what he created when his forums started acting just like he acted.
For a lot of the common players its the rebel thing; to bash authority, bitch about the man, complain about corporations...whatever. Its sticking it to the man in the online world. BE A REBEL...with all the other rebels doing the same exact thing.
Bah...just have fun. Each of us will have opinions on these games, but they are just opinions and thusly don"t mean more than a pile of turds.
Let"s be honest. It"s schadenfreude. For some against SOE, for some against Brad, and for most against the vanbois. Having been in beta for over a year, imho the sycophantic vanbois did significant damage to the game. Only in the last couple of months did the devs start ignoring the vanbois and major improvements in the game were made.
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Drax UI displays XPs in raw numbers, just not min max. You can tell how much per mob though. I just set this up tonight, and prefer it over CoreUI2 very much so.
Heres a current screenshot of my setup:http://www.ffmaps.com/images/flipt/vgui.jpg
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WoW is to an MMO what McDonalds is to fine dining.
That being said: I love WoW and I love McDonalds.
Holy shit, I love Vanguard and I love fine dining.
Holy.... shit.
That being said: I love WoW and I love McDonalds.
Holy shit, I love Vanguard and I love fine dining.
Holy.... shit.
Could someone please answer: Why the pissing contest between WoW and VG?
I hope that WoW keeps its 8 million. Hell, I hope it hits 9 million. I won"t be one of those 9 mil, but more power to "em. That"s impressive.
While I wish success for Sigil, I hope y"all are right. I hope VG does keep a small subscriber base. There"s something nice about being able to take a step without bumping into twenty other players. I like to explore virtual worlds, and a world that looks from end to end like Times Square on New Year"s Eve is not a world that I have much interest exploring.
Hell, I hope to never be in Time"s Square when it"s like that. I"d panic. I hate crowds.
Different strokes for different folks. /shrug Vanguard, to me, is as close as it comes to perfection.
I hope that WoW keeps its 8 million. Hell, I hope it hits 9 million. I won"t be one of those 9 mil, but more power to "em. That"s impressive.
While I wish success for Sigil, I hope y"all are right. I hope VG does keep a small subscriber base. There"s something nice about being able to take a step without bumping into twenty other players. I like to explore virtual worlds, and a world that looks from end to end like Times Square on New Year"s Eve is not a world that I have much interest exploring.
Hell, I hope to never be in Time"s Square when it"s like that. I"d panic. I hate crowds.
Different strokes for different folks. /shrug Vanguard, to me, is as close as it comes to perfection.
Even if WoW hits 20 million you can"t play with them all. You only play with how many people share your server. If VG never breaks 1 million any player will still have the same immediate community as any WoW player. I dunno though, do VG servers hold a lot more players? Seems like i read that but i can"t remember.
iirc... they wanted approximately 5000 per server, 2500 on at primetime - versus what, 2000 max players on wow servers?tad10 said:
Vanguard and WoW are both good games. Vanguard will keep my interest longer, I expect. Not entirely sure why people on either "side" need to try and prove the other is worthless.
the average daily activity for all wow servers is 2500ish players per server at prime time. some of the servers go over 3k active players primetime.
Realm Activity - WarcraftRealms.com
i don"t know where you all are getting your info from.
Realm Activity - WarcraftRealms.com
i don"t know where you all are getting your info from.
No server ever has 50% of its active players playing at one time. Not even close. They want 5k peak time which means 20k+ subs per server.cockles said: