You need those players with shitty computers. Get back to this thread in a few more months when you get tired of the LFG routine.
Why all the nerd rage against Vanguard
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It wasn"t "someone else"s" meaning they could retcon elves in space and not have to answer to anyone for it.Wolfen said:
Was pretty much squandered on half-baked, outdated ideas. Have to tip my hat off to Brad for actually talking MS into spending the bucks without even seeing anything substantial first. Of course, after a few years and 30+ million MS finally got wise and cut its losses. Sorry but a company willing to write 30+ million dollars off says A LOT about the product, even to those obtuse folks.serrathen said:
I"m just commenting on what I"ve experienced myself. I pointed out that it very well could of gotten better with other dungeons.gremlinz273 said:
Probably because it"s an upgraded version of the AC2 engine. I think the point about the LOTRO is that Brad was implying that for decent (and non-WoW-type) graphics in the MMOG genre, people will need to upgrade their PCs to bleeding edge...and even then, they probably won"t be powerful enough (but just come back in three years or so and you"ll be fine).Blumpster said:
So someone started posting LOTRO pics as a counterpoint.
That was my point which Mikey-boy missed: A solid-but unoriginal, mostly-complete game + graphics that don"t need a Cray to run will get many more subscribers than an partially-incomplete game "with potential" which needs dual-core PCs, top-end graphics cards and 2+ gigs of RAM to get a decent framerate at higher detail levels.
In a word, bullshit. I bought the game, plenty of the problems people have are completely valid. Performance issues, heavy handed nerfs, CTD"s, experience rollbacks, lack of content at higher levels, ridiculous travel times....all are valid complaints, many of which we told them about in Beta.Morderick said:
The game has potential, but it also has some serious issues that have pissed off a lot of people. If you can"t see that you"re blind.
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You started off by saying that you didn"t see what was so great about WoW"s battle system or how the quests were just "kill 10 mobs".Morderick said:
You then launched right into why you like that Vanguard sent you into dungeons to tie in some lore.
Thats really wonderful... I applaud your enjoyable experience. I"d also like to point out that it sounds silly to poo-poo WoW"s "breadcrumb" quest system, and then talk about how VG does the exact same thing. WoW actually does a very good job, IF you bother to do the quests and follow the lore, of sending you out to see the world.
On a slight tangent, anyone know why tad was banned? I hope it was for more than just being a vanboi .... I"m not sure I like the thought of biased mods.
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WoW"s gameplay and design philosophy merged with Everquest"s world and style. VG style dungeons, but also instanced raids and WoW style instances featuring the awesome scripting that WoW spoiled us all with but slower progression and a wider range of available content throughout. EQ2 style encounter locking so that outdoor bosses are still possible. Power based progression over task based. The ability to tweak abilities for PVP completely independent of PVE. No fucking talent system that restricts classes into a singular role - to specialize should be as simple as changing out gear. Fairly small number of classes to simplify balance and to make each players role very clear.woqqqa said:
Oddly, EQ2 would be the closest if it didn"t have the genres absolute worst combat system, ball-twisting painful long quest chains featuring masochistic insanity like game wide easter egg hunts and timed switch flipping, and of course the vomit-inducing overuse of closet sized instances.
A game built for having a lot of players standing around fighting, BECAUSE THAT"S WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS IN MMOS YOU GODDAMN RETARDS. (That"s you, EQ2 and Vanguard. Seriously.)
It"s like every game out there has a little piece of what it takes to approach perfection, and nobody has put it together. They all have had a little something that I liked very much, but most have lacked huge in other areas.
In the words of CAMEROUS:Gieve said:
You should know better than that Tad. As long as they are chugging the blizz cock nothing will happen to them... haven"t you caught on to that yet?
Yup, 2bit & co are still here posting shit in VG threads! w00t!
I hope you"re not insinuating that we can"t insult Vanguard in this thread! I keep out of threads about the game for the most part, but this is truly a thread for shit-talking.Morderick said:
How"s this for nerd rage:
Vanguard Crafters :: View topic - Kojan: Thow us a bone
All you people who ground out Kojani faction....so sorry, thanks for playing.
Vanguard Crafters :: View topic - Kojan: Thow us a bone
All you people who ground out Kojani faction....so sorry, thanks for playing.
CTDs are being fixed, on release day they were severe (the game was released at least 3 months too early). Experience rollbacks are fixed, unless they were intentional rollbacks because people exploited bugs. Lack of content at higher levels isn"t as much as an impact because it should take the average gamer longer to get there - unless you grind out levels 40+ hours a week.Kaxmax said:
Travel times? Not too bad with a mount and they might add in teleportation spells (some already exist, though they"re dungeon centric - Offensive casters get evacs while Healers get Call of the Hero type spells early - level 18).
The zones are well designed with progression. I don"t need to travel back and forth 5 hours each time I play.. what are you doing exactly that requires so much travelling each time?
Current gripes are about class balance, they"re all different and fun, some still need tweaking. Item Decay. It sucks. But they"re adjusting that too.
This game is less than 2 months into (yes, rushed release) release. We could easily make a list of stuff that weren"t working well on release in EQ1, EQ2, WoW, etc.
I"m just appaled, as I was in beta before I posted, that every single bloody VG thread is filled with VG-haters that think they know all the game and think that because they didn"t like it or have trouble running it that it"s a shitty game and everyone else"s remarks or opinion or attempt at discussing the game should be met with shitty and endless posts.
It"s evident that this place is a one-minded fortress for WoW.
All you"re doing is making excuses. But as long as you feel you"re getting your money"s worth. Shrug.
And travel times were horrendous.
And travel times were horrendous.
One thing I"ve noticed in this thread is that the anti-VG people tend to respond to the weaker arguments, and ignore the solid ones. (I, of course, am a solid poster) Maybe I need to make my posts more inflammatory. I wanna brawl, vanboi style. Faggots.
Your entire post amounts to "it"s being fixed/adjusted." That"s super, but surely you can see why people have some angst over said issues, now that they"re paying customers.Morderick said: