Why don't Incels?

Phazael

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Women lie about what they want, true or false?
And most of my lesbian acquaintances over the years have been the normal acting blue collar variety. They get fucking friend zoned all the god damn time, mostly because they get infatuated with straight women who are unattainable, are antisocial, or take what the blue hair otherkin man hating dykes say at face value. Its hilarious and sad to watch, actually. The behavior of these no game beta fuckers who desperately want some snapper is eerily similar and they even travel in the same (anti) social circles, in my personal experience. Both make the cardinal sin of assuming that what a woman says she wants has is even remotely close to what they actually want. Its just more hilarious in the case of cat lady lesbians because one would think that having a vagina might give them a secret decoder ring for that disconnect, but it seems to make it worse.

Either way, getting women is about actual confidence and taking charge, which eludes incels and a good chunk of the normies carpet muncher population, which I think you are in based on past things you have said. I mean, clearly you are not assertive in your hunting because you refer to you one LTR in entirely unflattering terms and (your words) have never been the aggressor. This is the same shit "incels" cannot wrap their heads around, so they either end up doing PUA shit for meaningless empty sex and/or they wind up frustrated women haters. Cat lesbians get old and bitter, while engaging in hobbies like whining on the internet. The major differences between them and your demographic are having two women doing fakeouts instead of one complicating things and the incels think getting laid is the end all be all of life, because for men getting laid is a major social success indicator.

Also, and this has been discussed, as long as you are willing to take the D (or hell, a bj or pitty tug even), no matter how hideous of a beast you are as a women, someone WILL fuck you and/or munch your snizz. This forum has the Shelly pics to prove it.

PS- Actually not trying to mock you with this. I might be one of the few who believes you are who you say you are because I have had several friends who are pretty much almost exactly like you, IRL.
 
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Phazael

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The sexual revolution has been a disaster for both men and women. It's weird how leftists are so against monogamy and pro "free love" when socially enforced monogamy is basically sexual socialism that ensures even the lowest have access to sex and reproduction while "free love" is lassiez-faire capitalism of the sexual marketplace and creates these incels that either have no access due to their own status or completely check out of the market all together out of disgust.

There is literally nothing good for society about increasing casual sex and partnerships and decreasing monogamous relationships and marriage.

I am not sure I entirely agree with this, but like anything else it was taken way too fucking far. Fucking around a little before settling down to get some game and work out who you are in a relationship is a good thing. Getting hitched at 19 and being miserable your whole life because you guessed wrong when you were to fucking stupid to make good choices is not a way to live any more than these self loathing unfuckables existence we are discussing is. Banging everything that moves and sexualizing everything in society is taking things too far, as is anything that directly undermines the nuclear family concept. Its also poisoning our children. The world has always had spinsters, confirmed bachelors, and solitary men. The big difference now is they get attention and reinforcement from the internet and changes in society that amplify the wrong things.
 

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I think you're miscategorizing the problem.

The ability to be financially independent without needing a partner means a bunch of people not interested in partnering just won't bother to get a partner.

This is a good thing. This is a sign of economic progress and increased freedom.
 
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Separated at birth?
 
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I think you're miscategorizing the problem.

The ability to be financially independent without needing a partner means a bunch of people not interested in partnering just won't bother to get a partner.

This is a good thing. This is a sign of economic progress and increased freedom.
Yes people checking out of the primary reason for existence so they can buy new cell phones and dildos is definitely a good thing.
 
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Well, we found the incels thanks to these last couple pages.
 
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Disclaimer: If you resort to violence for ANY reason... if you threaten or intimidate people... if you expect sex rather than earn it... you are a Grade A first class piece of shit human being.

That said, my $0.02.

Imagine you're thrust into the middle of a chess tournament, but you don't really know how to play chess. At all.
You know that you have to make the pieces on the board do a thing against the pieces of your opponent. But you're not sure how it all works. You know the horse piece isn't supposed to be called a horse piece and does weird shit. You know that either the king or the queen is super strong, but you're not sure which.
You also know that the prize for winning this tournament is sex & companionship.
So you try to play chess. And you're TERRIBLE at it. Because you don't know the rules.
Worse, whenever you ask someone something like, "What am I doing wrong?" or "How is this all supposed to work?" You get the SHITTIEST advice known to man. Instead of someone sitting you down and explaining the rules, you hear shit like, "Oh, just stay POSITIVE! You'll be good if you stay positive!"
So you smile and play the next game and the next and you lose and piss off your opponents. All the while people are winning and marching off with sex & companionship. And you have jack shit to show for your time and effort.

How long could you keep that up before you wanted to scream?

I'm not looking for a debate. I'm not defending incels. In the age of information, dating guidance is a mouseclick away. So I have no sympathy for them. But being old enough to have dated back in the 90's when there were no real books on dating, no websites, and just shitty advice left and right... I understand them. I don't AGREE with them. I don't condone them. I don't like them. But I understand them.
 
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Fuck some of those posts are "the police should look into this guy" level of scary. To completely believe that all of your shortcomings and problems are the fault of someone else, fuck an entire gender, is some Olympics level mental gymnastics.
 
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If you're that beta so much as to be incapable of dicking a girl, good fucking riddance of your shitty genes. If a completely incompetent retard trailer trash podunk motherfucker can get laid and you can't, Jesus fucking Christ, you literally have zero qualifications to continue your line. Give up, just continue fucking your Fleshlight with VR porn. No one cares.
 
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If you're that beta so much as to be incapable of dicking a girl, good fucking riddance of your shitty genes. If a completely incompetent retard trailer trash podunk motherfucker can get laid and you can't, Jesus fucking Christ, you literally have zero qualifications to continue your line. Give up, just continue fucking your Fleshlight with VR porn. No one cares.
Exactly, the whole Incel thing seems to be a self-correcting problem.

The fact that a handful of the craziest ones take a few other people out with them is irrelevant, homicidal crazy people always latch onto some crazy ideology or another to justify their craziness. If it wasn't their incel-ness it'd just be something else that triggered them.
 

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It must be that these incel dudes are aiming too high. For every fat and/or socially dysfunctional male there's a fat and/or socially dysfunctional woman - surely they want something they can't attain until they better themselves in some shape or form, if they can't or don't want to do that they need to accept the reality of life and get a grip of their expectations. The lack of self awareness displayed on that forum is a disgrace - they are basically just projecting their own issues and failures, whether or not those problems are their own fault, and generalising the entire female gender.

Any one with the slightest bit of normality about them knows women are as varied a bunch of folk as men, this incel.me shit is a classic example of how terrible an echo chamber is. These guys are encouraging each other to kill themselves, that's warped. Fuck it though, they can make their own choices - maybe it's nature's way of tidying up the gene pool a bit.
 

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Disclaimer: If you resort to violence for ANY reason... if you threaten or intimidate people... if you expect sex rather than earn it... you are a Grade A first class piece of shit human being.

That said, my $0.02.

Imagine you're thrust into the middle of a chess tournament, but you don't really know how to play chess. At all.
You know that you have to make the pieces on the board do a thing against the pieces of your opponent. But you're not sure how it all works. You know the horse piece isn't supposed to be called a horse piece and does weird shit. You know that either the king or the queen is super strong, but you're not sure which.
You also know that the prize for winning this tournament is sex & companionship.
So you try to play chess. And you're TERRIBLE at it. Because you don't know the rules.
Worse, whenever you ask someone something like, "What am I doing wrong?" or "How is this all supposed to work?" You get the SHITTIEST advice known to man. Instead of someone sitting you down and explaining the rules, you hear shit like, "Oh, just stay POSITIVE! You'll be good if you stay positive!"
So you smile and play the next game and the next and you lose and piss off your opponents. All the while people are winning and marching off with sex & companionship. And you have jack shit to show for your time and effort.

How long could you keep that up before you wanted to scream?

I'm not looking for a debate. I'm not defending incels. In the age of information, dating guidance is a mouseclick away. So I have no sympathy for them. But being old enough to have dated back in the 90's when there were no real books on dating, no websites, and just shitty advice left and right... I understand them. I don't AGREE with them. I don't condone them. I don't like them. But I understand them.
Did you just equate sex & companionship with winning a chess game?

That's some incel shit son. Too late for you already...

Please step over here.
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Unrealistic expectations on how the world works. They seem to think that all of their problems (mental and physical) will be solved by getting their dicks wet.

Nothing will happen, they'll still be fucked up people.
 

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Overweight unattractive dudes that stock shelves at Walmart don't get to bang supermodels? What's the world coming to.
 
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Did you just equate sex & companionship with winning a chess game?

That's some incel shit son. Too late for you already...

Please step over here.
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Hello. I am a metaphor. Have we met?

Seriously, if you read my post as “DATING IS WINNING AT CHESS FOR PUSSY” and not “this is an example of frustration stemming from ignorance and shitty advice” then you’re a fucking retard.
 
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Hello. I am a metaphor. Have we met?

Seriously, if you read my post as “DATING IS WINNING AT CHESS FOR PUSSY” and not “this is an example of frustration stemming from ignorance and shitty advice” then you’re a fucking retard.
I feel like I might need to start adding a sarcasm tag to certain posts. I forget how strong Poes Law is 'round these parts.
 
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I'm honestly and genuinely NOT trying to be insulting when I say this, so if this hits a nerve with any of you, I'm sorry... no disrespect; promise!

...but in my 40 years of existence on this planet, I can safely pinpoint one interest (let's call it) that places any guy into that niche category of painfully, brutally socially awkward that has/will fester into incel tendencies, and that is:

-drumroll-

Huge anime fans.

Comics, Star Wars/Star Trek, gaming, D&D, MTG... pick your nerd poison, there's lots, sure, but there's something about those colossal anime fanbois that are the most unfuckable humans on the planet, and I'd bet a fair chunk of those posters on that forum are closet anime fans that collect those highly detailed figurines on the DL, but post a shitload of gym pics in public.
 
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Are you saying that hot glue aficionados might have a hard time understanding social cues?
 

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I'm honestly and genuinely NOT trying to be insulting when I say this, so if this hits a nerve with any of you, I'm sorry... no disrespect; promise!

...but in my 40 years of existence on this planet, I can safely pinpoint one interest (let's call it) that safely places any guy into that niche category of painfully, brutally socially awkward that has/will fester into incel tendencies, and that is:

-drumroll-

Huge anime fans.

Comics, Star Wars/Star Trek, gaming, D&D, MTG... pick your nerd poison, there's lots, sure, but there's something about those colossal anime fanbois that are the most unfuckable humans on the planet, and I'd bet a fair chunk of those posters on that forum are closet anime fans that collect those highly detailed figurines on the DL, but post a shitload of gym pics in public.

You never do see the guy carrying a "waifu" pillow walking around at comic conventions with a girlfriend. Or even with other friends.