Winter 2026 Anime Thread

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08th MS Team is my favorite because it's incredibly grounded (figuratively and literally) compared to most of the series
I’ve watched 4 episodes of 08MS and it’s excellent. Only complaint is that Zaku helmet “eye” turns if the pilot turns their head in the cockpit. Just seems like a weird design flaw but that’s so minor lol.

it’s very good. art is awesome. Hella inspired by the pacific theatre of ww2 and vietnam.
 

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My introduction into Gundam was Wing on Cartoon Network. As a result of Cartoon Network, the ONLY way I can watch Wing is with English Dub. Everything else has to be subtitled. Then I purchased all of the DVD's as they came out from Suncoast Video. Then also the Endless Waltz movie. I got into 08th, also buying DVD's from Suncoast. Then when Seed came out, I watched that and also Seed Destiny. Then a little later Gundam Build Fighters came out, and that was all about gunpla (the gundam models). Then they had Season 2, which was Build Fighters Try. Season 3 was Build Divers & 4 was Build Divers ReRise. I got my kids into those 4 seasons, and they have loved gundam ever since. My daughter has a few of the gunpla that her grand parents would bring over every time they visit us from Japan.
if your kids like the gunpla toy fighting
try angelic layer
 

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Cinderella gray was some baller shit today, when you thought they couldn't animate the shit any better they go ahead and up the quality.

Godamn i wish real sports anime took shit as seriously as horse girl anime when it comes to animation.
 
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Finished my re watch for Frieren - I think earlier we got confused between Northern Lands and Northern Plateau - they were in the Northern Lands from like episode 5/6 whatever the Aura and other Demon fight was - hence the Army of the Northern Lands, etc. etc- also at least the Netflix subtitle translation of the "X years since the death of Himmel - XYZ in the --Norther Lands" says...well...northern lands.

I still do not care for all the time they spent on the magic school / magic trials - seeing how extremely tight and purposeful the narrative was until then - yet it not only was trying to make sure to explain a lot of "Current" and "to come" items - it also was filling in some things from everything before it... and yet, it still again was off putting for them to "IMO" add the -if you can imagine it- aspect of the worlds magic system... to me that clashes with the idea of mana, in how it was presented up and even after that point.

All in all, still very much looking forward to S2 in January or whenever I can get my grubby hands on it.
 

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and yet, it still again was off putting for them to "IMO" add the -if you can imagine it- aspect of the worlds magic system... to me that clashes with the idea of mana, in how it was presented up and even after that point.
I'm not sure what you mean. Up to that point you only saw the effects of the magic system, and knew that mana was somehow involved in it. Also, that demons develop and specialize in one kind of magic, while everyone else has a range of spells. The whole point of Frieren's 50 year journey after the defeat of the demon lord was to catch up and collect spells, as she herself lived in hiding and was basically only training.

What you are probably feeling is the loss of the "mystery" element, and the formalization of the magic system ... by actually non-formalizing it. "You can only cast what you can imagine" is as free-form as it gets for a magic system--as long as you have the mana for it. Übel is basically the poster child for this. Also, there is a spell Serie uses in the latest chapters that can only be described as "mindfuck."

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Ehh. I still feel the "the limit is your imagination" addition (again imo) to the system is not as well fitting as just the building blocks of things that have been presented before.

Why would you need magic books and holy books, just "Imagine you can heal my arm, your good" - what does mana have to do with the ability to imagine? other than if you equate the two... "Jamal over there who does not know what it would be like to not have eaten breakfast cant make a spark, but ol JRR Tolkien over there is the most power magic user in existence." - and "Mana" is nothing more than a mystical imagination potential quotient - but then...why can it be used and depleted? The magic books are merely "Hey, think of what it would be like to sprout a flower from the ground and have it bloom instantly...like wouldn't that be cool?"

If it is all imagination / picturing in your minds eye - how do things persist after the caster is dead -

Also, I know this is a common fantasy magic system trope - so was everything before its introduction - I am just saying I do not care for the adding in of that - it also is putting that /aspect/ into the entire success of the original party - Himmel was supremely confidant in everything up to and including the defeat of the demon king, and passed on, in one way or the other that mindset to the entire party, and /that/ is the magic that allowed them to be victorious - an entire party that could together envision themselves defeating the big bad.

I get the modern magic essentially being elemental magic, and it falls into the weakness of the demons - what I did like about the 3rd test was showing the range of different spells and their crazy destructive powers while she fought her doppelganger - that was to me, a nice way to show you her thousands of years of knowledge rather than explaining it to you...

and how did those doppelgangers work, they had no mind to control, but had the mind and creativity of their source? sure it is kinda hand waved away, but it still really is not a good fit to me to have that kind of trope in the magic system as it was presented up and till then.

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dunno about Serie - I guess thats in the manga? in the show she really didnt do all that much

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If its imagination, how does that explain the demon king - I am sure he never imagined a rag tag group of adventurers could kill him - or the magic test immovable cape guy - he for sure was completely in tune with his imagination aka magic right? - that his cape was absolutely completely defensive against everything, but someone else imagined differently.... where is the actuality in that - its shown you can "see" or perceive mana and magic in presence and in use - so you see their thoughts of imagine? Do you have to imagine a counter to their thoughts? and do so really quickly? "Oh I never thought someone would cut like fabric...my...magically infused fabric cape...nor...would...I ever...think that it is steel fibers that are impenetrable to cutting?" - I get that it is an "explanation" - but they moved on beyond it being just an explanation or hyperbole of "we really do not know" and put it into into actuality / fact with the 3rd test in the cutting girl killing hair girl clone- as well as the clone of a clone of a clone guy... now that someone "saw" him do that....and knows what to "think" or "imagine" then...just do it.
 
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This is a lot to go through. Spoilers for length.


Let's start with the two lineages of magic development in Frieren's world:

First is obviously the demon magic. They seem to have free-form magic that is given some structure through insane specialization and is basically powered by their autism. They have an innate talent for manipulating mana without the need for magic education, as parents don't bring up their spawn. But the end result is quite literally individualistic magic. Lügner can identify Zoltraak, and "basic attack magic" being similar to it, but can't seem to cast it himself.

The second kind is the elven magic system, who tends to follow some kind of structure and rules of logic. This is most likely in order to transfer knowledge and teach people magic spells. The human magic system has evolved from elven magic--quite literally through Serie teaching Flamme, and Flamme being allowed to research magic by the Empire, and thus being the foundation of the human magic system.

Humans have, due to their short lives and the need to teach each generation magic again, jumpstarted a quick rapid succession of magic evolution. Which created both new spells and improved old ones. This is exemplified by the evolution of Zoltraak.

This is however not how the world works, only how the mages trigger effects they want to happen, and to make use of mana. You see the magic working, you see the caster, you know the spell and all that--but you don't really know how the physical phenomenon actually happens.

Ironically, it is literally the real world definition of Magick by Aleister Crowley:
Aleister Crowley defined Magick (spelled with a 'k' to distinguish it from stage magic) as "the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will".
So it is both Science and Art, with the Art part not being necessarily accessible through logic and reasoning. People copy what works, and refine what works. In effect, the underlying nature of the world seems to work like WH40K Ork logic, which is based on the WAAAGH! field. Basically a collective psychic field, where mass belief makes things happen. This is akin to what is called "egregore" In Western occultism, if you want another example.

The quite important part here is: You not only have to have the formulas, handwaving, mana manipulation, the staff, or other stuff: you also have to believe yourself that the magic works, and make others believe that it works. So it's the other way around: You use all those things to successfully make yourself and others believe, at least--or maybe fuidamentally--on a subconscious level, that things are going to happen, in order for the world to acknowledge that and really make it happen. It's a bit like Rupert Sheldrake's "morphic field": It's easier for other people to run a mile under 4 minutes once someone has proven that it is possible to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Fuckups in basic belief happen quite a lot in Frieren, as in "failing to believe in yourself", or making others believe. For example the fight between Richter and Kanne + Lawine. Richter lectures the girls that pure mana attacks and shields are no longer "state of the art", and physical attacks (like his signature earth manipulation magic) are superior. Only then to waver once there is water involved for Kanne to transition to a physical attack, and subsequently to not even use his signature spells to defend against the flood of water, but use mana shields against the physical attack from Kanne. Which is literally the opposite of what he said you should do earlier, and he subsequently fails to defend against it.

You can see this also in the fight with the Spiegel, where the Frieren clone at the end doesn't even have any arms anymore, but smashes Fern into the wall nonetheless. Fern even says to herself: "I can't even perceive this as an attack."

Which brings us the doppelgänger generation of the Spiegel. How does that even work when the clones don't even have a mind? My theory is that it works a bit like Linie, who duplicates the mana flow and manipulation of other warriors like Eisen to copy their movements. Note that this basically says that even warriors tend to use and manipulate mana, at least on a subconscious level. The Spiegel doppelgängers have no mind of their own, however the Spiegel itself seems to read the minds of everyone involved in order to create a doppelgänger, and subsequently "teach it" the stored mana manipulation techniques from the original. The clones look and act like the original, because the Spiegel can't differentiate what is needed and what not for the techniques to work from the mind of the source. So it clones everything, including the mage staff.


If it is all imagination / picturing in your minds eye - how do things persist after the caster is dead
You convinced yourself, you convinced others, you convinced the world. Your job is done. Especially if you created physical phenomena, like a fireball, or like Richter's earth magic. In D&D terms this would be called Evocation and Transmutation (formerly known as Alteration).

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it also is putting that /aspect/ into the entire success of the original party - Himmel was supremely confidant in everything up to and including the defeat of the demon king, and passed on, in one way or the other that mindset to the entire party, and /that/ is the magic that allowed them to be victorious - an entire party that could together envision themselves defeating the big bad.
That oversells and undersells Himmel at the same time. Himmel was basically a goody two-shoes dialed so much up that it broke the dial, and the dial went over cliché, hyperbole, caricature, and flanderization. This is, however, all from the memories of Frieren, which may not be a reliable narrator in the first place.

At the same time, Himmel was an insane Munchkin: Sidequests: all the time, every time. Not only was Himmel the one forcing the party to explore dungeons level by level for the 100% exploration achievement, Frieren herself said that she was the mage of the party that has conquered the most dungeons in history.

dunno about Serie - I guess thats in the manga? in the show she really didnt do all that much
Yes, that's from the Manga.

If its imagination, how does that explain the demon king - I am sure he never imagined a rag tag group of adventurers could kill him - or the magic test immovable cape guy - he for sure was completely in tune with his imagination aka magic right?
What really happened at the fight with the Demon King hasn't been really explained or shown, except for two tidbits:
1. The Demon King instantly saw through her mana suppression--that neither Linie, Lügner, or Aura could see through.
2. Frieren remarked that it was around 80 years ago (probably at the fight with the Demon King) that she was forced to use that magic, which probably refers to the Peak of Magic that hit Fern: a magic attack that you can't even perceive as an attack.

If you boil it long enough it comes down to the fact who believes more/harder in their version if reality, on a subconcious level. However, the magic system also seems to be structured like Rock Paper Scissors. Übel is a very convinced Scissors, with an intuitive level that seems detached from her intelligence and common sense. Everyone was shocked--including Übel herself--when she cut Burg in half. It looks like she skipped his shield and/or defense magic during the attack in order to cut the material itself.

And here's the crux: all this above is only for the magic system. In D&D terms: INT casters. This expains NOTHING about god magic (WIS casters), which you can see people like Heiter and Sein using, and which requires holy scriptures, working on a slightly different set of rules. You get a glimpse of it when Sein wakes up Frieren from the sleep induced by the chaos flower.

There is maybe a third type of magic system involving curses.

Yes, it will come up later.
 
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Does anyone here watch Gundam? Tbh, I used to really dig it back in the late 90's and early 2000's, but I haven't seen it in 20+ years. I'm trying to see what yall think about good places to rewatch: Mobile Suit Gundam, Gundam Wing, or is Gundam Origins any decent?

I used to really fuck with Trigun. I read the manga and loved the 1998 anime. I even recently re-read the Manga for maybe the first 7 volumes. I tried watching the modern reboot of it and really just couldn't with how they turned Vash into a Gen Z fuckboy in anesthetics. Hoping Origins is not like that.
I never have before but watched the first episode of Origins a couple days ago in an attempt to watch it all in order. I have no idea what Gundam is really about story wise but the first episode of Origins is about political clashes between powerful families and nominally Earth vs Spacers.
 

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I never have before but watched the first episode of Origins a couple days ago in an attempt to watch it all in order. I have no idea what Gundam is really about story wise but the first episode of Origins is about political clashes between powerful families and nominally Earth vs Spacers.
I'd recommend Gundam 08 MS. It's on D+ and Hulu. It's really good and I dig the art style/animation much better than Origins' hybrid cgi + 2d animation thing. The whole 08 MS series is only 12 episodes, and the first episode is very good.
 
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