True, but everyone serious about end game raiding reaches that point where for some reason all the heirloom gear and icy-veins strats in the world wont help you faceroll an encounter. That's when you either become good at what you do or you don't. Good players are out there, the game just doesn't require a lick of that shit until the very end.
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You don't see any cutscenes in ToT LFR. Guess they decided to add that for SoO so they could actually tow that line about letting everyone see the storylines.
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You're railing against the very same thing that brought you joy. Becoming insular and "running over poor saps" with your guild. I guess WoW is different, or doesn't correlate because it doesn't allow for content denial?
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WoW is different because you sit in an instance away from the rest of the server population. Insular is sitting in an instance with the same 9 shitheads every day for years because you have no reason to see anyone else in the game, ever.
Hence why the "journey" was more fun in EQ. It had a more lasting outcome and effected more people.
You are thinking scientificially. Marketing sez you start at 60, then quarterly do a 24.99 sale.. Push that supply and demand angle!
Daidraco
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I can follow that. Though, if you have nine other shit heads that you're with for years in a single raid group... then fucking "Kudos" to you! You have to admit that the steps they are taking "now" are getting in the direction ofnotbeing "insular." In that, anything up to Normal can be pugged reliably and for the most part... successfully. Garrosh is the only boss that has handed me my ass more than I have handed him his.
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Lore wise they are pretty much the same, I'd argue that scaling back mechanics makes for less content if for no other reason you spend less time on it. ToT had a boss only accessible after killing heroic Lei Shen (who was still harder then Garrosh), and Garrosh had an extra phase in Stormwind Harbour. Its just such a massive difference between other modes and heroic modes now they are essentially entirely new fights once you hit the top. Its no longer add x damage and y hp.
Personally I could care less about standing out in a crowd, and you certainly don't, but I never cared back in EQ either so maybe its just a overall mentality. As for just the same 24 others over the years, I guess in a way that is true but EQ really could be that insular as well if you chose to be that way.
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Why get rid of the sub fee when you can have the sub fee AND the cash store.
If they got rid of the sub fee I would start playing immediately. As vanilla as wow has become, its still a fun multiplayer game. I just can't justify paying a sub fee for something I'd play once a week. With lfr, easy mode raids, etc... its more like a dungeon crawler with a graphical chat room than an mmo.. I have no issues paying for the game.. just not a sub.
Not sure where you are going with this? Clearly the micro transaction business model is a strong one. I also play LoL and pay nothing... yet they seem to be making plenty of money.
I'd be completely fine with them adding an in game store that took money... similar to guildwars2. I think in its current state, wow just isn't a sub worthy game. However, its a great freemium game.
I'd be completely fine with them adding an in game store that took money... similar to guildwars2. I think in its current state, wow just isn't a sub worthy game. However, its a great freemium game.
Needless
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League works because they can push out a new or rare skin/costume and make huge money off of it. WoW doesn't really have that opportunity being an MMO so they would need another alternative.
Obviously they could have "real money" transmog items like they already do, but i really don't see that being an effective market for the type of game it is heh.
It's not an easy thing to just remove subs and still make an even remote amount of what they currently pull in.
Obviously they could have "real money" transmog items like they already do, but i really don't see that being an effective market for the type of game it is heh.
It's not an easy thing to just remove subs and still make an even remote amount of what they currently pull in.
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Sure they can, if Wow followed Rifts model of free to play and their subs actually gave something raiders/pvpers wanted then it would be no issue. It all depends on how its implemented.
Caeden
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They would have to lock bank and bag slots behind a pay wall, perhaps charge money for raid access (one time flag), charge money for xpacs, keep the services they have, and probably sell character slots. It could be done, but it'd take some time.
There's lots of stuff they can do. Release extra character slots for money... raid content as a "dlc" essentially. I think if done right it would lead to far more revenue... mainly because the freemium model really seems to work well in all genres. Just a thought