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Kaines

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Isn't that the same as the first paladin set ever? I seem to remember seeing this set way back in original WoW.
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This was the 1.0 set.
 

Leon

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I really only care if they make prot warrior viable

Having to fury tank, while fun, what a damn shame.

From what I saw in forever I dont think what they did to shield slam will be enough at end game. It still doesn't scale for shit
 

Kaines

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I really only care if they make prot warrior viable

Having to fury tank, while fun, what a damn shame.

From what I saw in forever I dont think what they did to shield slam will be enough at end game. It still doesn't scale for shit
Shield Slam, while being a capstone talent, isn't what will make Prot Warriors viable. There are several talents along the way in the tree that will do that.

Shield Spec
Defiance
Vangaurd
Improved Shield Wall
Bastion
 

Lunis

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No world buffs and no weakauras. I'm glad they're both gone. There was not a worse feeling than having your world buffs removed in the first 15m of the raid or being purged on the way to Blackrock Mountain by some degen.

There will be more retards standing in fire w/o weakauras but who cares.
 

Leon

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Shield Slam, while being a capstone talent, isn't what will make Prot Warriors viable. There are several talents along the way in the tree that will do that.

Shield Spec
Defiance
Vangaurd
Improved Shield Wall
Bastion
Yeah the problem is threat, always was.

We gained good tools, but if we can't hold aggro at higher levels of gear it's all pointless.

None of these fix the issue, defiance was always there it's limited to shield users now, shield slam will be the determining factor of our ability to hold threat.

It didn't work in classic cause it didn't scale, it got bumped up but it still doesn't scale.
 

Kaines

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Yeah the problem is threat, always was.

We gained good tools, but if we can't hold aggro at higher levels of gear it's all pointless.

None of these fix the issue, defiance was always there it's limited to shield users now, shield slam will be the determining factor of our ability to hold threat.

It didn't work in classic cause it didn't scale, it got bumped up but it still doesn't scale.
The reason Prot Warriors couldn't hold threat is because once they got full armor / shield etc, they were rage starved. Master of Defense helps alieviate that along with other rage reducing talents for abilities.

This looks like the meta Prot Warrior build going into Beta. I don't think you'll have any issues with rage with it.

 
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Needless

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blizzcon was an old build. A lot of the talents are changing or being moved around which well find out at like 10:30am pst tomorrow
 
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Runnen

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It's been a hot minute but I remember having to stack 3 Sunder Armor to hold aggro as a Prot War in Vanilla..

Anyway, I'm very surprised at the hype this is generating. I'm happy for the people who are happy about it, but I couldn't be any less interested in playing "Classic but with a couple retail ideas sprinkled on top". I guess I'm just over playing this, I played it 22 years ago, I was 22 years younger and I'm fine with how the retail game evolved since my gameplay in it works for me (as a mostly solo collector of stuff, I don't like the M+ hamster wheel they turned it into). I played the guild / raid game for years in EQ and then early WoW, it's in the past now and I don't miss all the drama.

I do think it was dumb to add the cloud elves instead of Ogres and High Elves but eh, that's Blizzard we're talking about. I guess they're adding a few new places and quests but really I can say with a straight face I didn't feel like my original Vanilla experience was lacking ..*checks notes* .. some Riverglades.