World of Warcraft: Current Year

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So...they are releasing vanilla again? This is what, the 90482204820572th time they've done this? A few new zones and some quests?

LOL.
Welcome to Holly Longdong being in charge. She did the same thing when she was in charge of EQ TLPs. DBG didn't start really mixing things up until after she left.
 
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TJT

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Well, here's to hoping it's something that looks good. I will certainly be interested if so. WoW remains one of the best chill games ever.
 
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Okay I watched a few of those speculation videos now.

So fundamentally, for me, if the game is demanding a box price for "Classic+" it has to be more than a more polished version of Season of Discovery. Those WoW nerds are absolutely right that there is a demand for the progression gameplay loop visible in games like Palword and Valheim. Both were commercially very successful and lack the massively multiplayer aspect that has fallen out of game design for a long while now. Ignore the sandbox elements of those games. This is compounded by the success of Turtle WoW and Ascension which drew profitable player bases.

Now, all of that said they really can't just slap a new coat of paint on this and do something lazy like rebalance some talent trees. It has to break the Classic meta. As in the now hyperoptimized Classic gameplay we all know and love is just no longer a thing. No aggressive warrior stacking and so on. If they do not do that and still demand you pay a box price for the privilege then fuck them. If they just slap on a few extra zones, factions, etc and call it good fuck them.

Hoping for the best here but it might be a tall order for them to accomplish that. A true Classic+ would want to attract new players and not just the Classic Andys.

The basic bones for WOW are so good even now that you can absolutely build upon it.
 

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Okay I watched a few of those speculation videos now.

So fundamentally, for me, if the game is demanding a box price for "Classic+" it has to be more than a more polished version of Season of Discovery. Those WoW nerds are absolutely right that there is a demand for the progression gameplay loop visible in games like Palword and Valheim. Both were commercially very successful and lack the massively multiplayer aspect that has fallen out of game design for a long while now. Ignore the sandbox elements of those games. This is compounded by the success of Turtle WoW and Ascension which drew profitable player bases.

Now, all of that said they really can't just slap a new coat of paint on this and do something lazy like rebalance some talent trees. It has to break the Classic meta. As in the now hyperoptimized Classic gameplay we all know and love is just no longer a thing. No aggressive warrior stacking and so on. If they do not do that and still demand you pay a box price for the privilege then fuck them. If they just slap on a few extra zones, factions, etc and call it good fuck them.

Hoping for the best here but it might be a tall order for them to accomplish that. A true Classic+ would want to attract new players and not just the Classic Andys.

The basic bones for WOW are so good even now that you can absolutely build upon it.
This is all going to come down to: If you want to find faults that prevent you from playing, you will find them. If you want to find enough good things to justify playing, you will find them.
 

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All I mean is that with so many games to play out there I'd love for a reason to return to some chill WoW play. But if they want me to pay a box price I expect something a little more substantial than what we have seen from private servers and Season of Discovery.
 

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a little more substantial than what we have seen from private servers
Given what we saw from Ascension and Turtle WoW, I don't think this is even in the realm of possibility on release. Maybe in a year or two of further development.
 
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But if they want me to pay a box price I expect something a little more substantial than what we have seen from private servers and Season of Discovery.
Why would they put in the effort when the point is to sell you something and then having you fuck off, because you actually playing the game is costing them server and bandwidth costs.

I have this theory that this is the reason why Blizzard is pushing for less and less content each expansion, and them going to the influencer whores to paint it all as "the game is respecting your time."

Here's an interesting tidbit: Microsoft wanted its games division studios to have a 30% profit margin (which even Nintendo couldn't do when the Switch in their prime basically printed money for them). And Blizzard is rumoured to now be the most profitable game studio under Microsoft.
 
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