WoW Ascension (Classless Realm)

I am level 25 on BB right now. As a Shaman. I am still learning enchantments because I didn't realize you need some special currency just to save them. So I lost the one I liked and have to go find it again.

Enchantment Altars only being in COMPLETELY RETARDED places does annoy the shit out of me. I think the system is cool and yes it does add flavor that the altars are only in the Ruins of Dalaran (the only one I know for certain is static). It's like the Moonwell cooldown for Horde except 10x more gay because everyone has to interact with it and not just master tailors.

Its a core system of your game. It should be available in every Capital city.

TJT said:

I am level 25 on BB right now. As a Shaman. I am still learning enchantments because I didn't realize you need some special currency just to save them. So I lost the one I liked and have to go find it again.

Enchantment Altars only being in COMPLETELY RETARDED places does annoy the shit out of me. I think the system is cool and yes it does add flavor that the altars are only in the Ruins of Dalaran (the only one I know for certain is static). It's like the Moonwell cooldown for Horde except 10x more gay because everyone has to interact with it and not just master tailors.

Its a core system of your game. It should be available in every Capital city.

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Collections (saving them) is a trap don't do it.

You only need to apply an enchant once, you don't need to save it to your collection. The only reason you would need to save it, is if you want to swap it out for a different enchant in that slot. You may think you'll be doing this all the time but you will not.

Saving them costs you thousands/tens of thousands of runes and applying them costs you thousands of runes so swapping around enchants like that costs you hundreds of thousands of runes.

All enchants are free from the world and can be applied for free without an altar, as long as you explore and find them (or literally just look up their locations on discord), most if not all enchants drop from level appropriate zones where that slot unlocks anyway.

Nearly every single enchant is designed for a specific playstyle/build, whether that is tanking vs healing vs dps or on DPS classes most enchants are designed for a specific talent tree (demo vs affliction or bm vs mm vs survival on hunters, etc)

So basically there's really not very many reasons at all that you would want to swap your enchants, thus there is virtually no reason to save them.

if you want to have different builds, you can unlock talent/enchant specializations (ie dual specs) and you can have unique enchants for each build. You can also loot enchants on any character they are realm bound, so you can easily just go loot the enchant on another character.

There is really almost no reason at all to ever save an enchant thus no reason to ever need to interact with an altar.

People are playing this like they do A52, where enchants can be used on any class (since it's classless), so they pokemon it "gotta collect them all" in case they want to use it on some new build thing. You can't do that here. All enchants here are not only class locked but really, spec locked. Even if you wanted to play like 6 different rogue characters each one of them can go loot the enchant for themselves from the world for free, you still have no reason to save to your collection.

Also they are just sitting at altars playing the lotto rerolling enchants trying to find the rares instead of going out and exploring, spending tens if not hundreds of thousands of runes trying to find a specific enchant. again it's a trap and waste of runes, just leave the capital and the enchant system on this server is 100% free and convenient, you never need to touch an altar to play.

If I am playing shaman I want to try out the shaman enchants. This compels me to save them as they are gone if you overwrite them.

I don't give a shit about random enchants for classes I'm not playing. You need the altar to apply them period and as it says in the video to reroll enchants you find exploring for ones you want. This also requires the altar.

Your advice is completely retarded dude.

Kaines said:

On BB I can't slot an enchant without an alter. So saying there is no reason to interact with one is plain false.

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any enchant scroll you have in your inventory you just right click on it and then just select the corresponding slot to fill, no altar needed if it's a scroll.

TJT said:

If I am playing shaman I want to try out the shaman enchants. This compels me to save them as they are gone if you overwrite them.

I don't give a shit about random enchants for classes I'm not playing. You need the altar to apply them period and as it says in the video to reroll enchants you find exploring for ones you want. This also requires the altar.

Your advice is completely retarded dude.

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Again you are misguided and going down a rabbit hole that is designed to make you run out of runes.

how many different builds are you trying to "test out" on your shaman? Are you going to go from elemental to tank to 2h enhance to resto all willy nilly from level 10 to 30 changing your mind every 2 levels?

Or do you have an idea in mind of what you want to play and you're going to play that? Cus if you aren't swapping from resto to tank to ele to enhance there is no reason at all to save to collection and burn through all your runes. And if you are going to swap a million specs before level 20 then just make multiple characters. if you are a reasonable player who will hit 60 with 1 spec and then dual spec for pvp/pve/raid purposes then just do that and dual spec, again no need to collect enchants.

We're not talking about other class runes (though you would be wise to just mail them to a bank alt if you ever intend to play those classes ever) we're talking about shaman runes. You don't need an altar to apply them from scrolls and you really should not be wasting your time rolling enchants @ 250 a pop instead of just going and looting them for free.

There are 2 types of players, those who have spent 0 runes ever on multiple characters and those who are constantly broke and just paralyzed sitting at lvl 30 and feel that can't even play because they dont earn enough runes from questing to collect all their enchants.

2h Enh and Tank are the only specs I will play at the moment. But I would still want to save the ones relevant to that.

Like I found some enchant that increases shock dmg and due to my inexperience I used it which replaced the Primal Strike tanking one I found. Now I have to go find that again.

Earthen shield is given from your trainer as one of the 3 choices at level 15 and it is also found in the world at the following locations, the barrens on the hill south of sludge fen, darkshore in the naga cave up north, and loch modan in the elite ogre area, first cave on the left.

In all instances you will find a shaman stuck on a stalagmite and you click on them to free them and they give you the scroll. you can collect all 4 of them (3 in the world plus the quest one) and can freely apply the enchant using the scroll without the need for an altar, which means you still don't need to add to your collection unless you change your mind a 5th time between the levels of 15 and 25 (which is when you unlock the 2nd purple enchant slot). Even if you did change your mind a 5th time, it takes what an hour or two to level up another character of any class up to lvl 15 and go and grab them from the world? you can collect as many of the scrolls as you want really, they are like ducks in the park, they are free just take them home.

seriously, what are you, a woman? it isn't that serious. just apply the scroll you want and move on, or if you are really so indecisive, just save them all don't apply any enchants, wait til you've leveled a bit more and have a better understanding of the mechanics, they aren't that fucking important.

Now generally speaking, there is a little bit of overlap between enhance dps and tank since both utilize the enhance tree which means your cross tree blues might overlap (they open up at lvl 45-60) but generally your blues will come from embossed scrolls which get saved automatically to your collections, can be farmed endlessly from mobs that use the abilities (ie shaman mobs that use shaman abilities) and worst case you can just buy the scrolls from your trainer.

Your main enchants, being your legendary, artifact, and 3x epic enchants really wont have much if any overlap between a DPS spec and Tank spec, so if you want to dual spec then you should actually dual spec instead of trying to swap runes between the two on the same spec of the same character.

one exception would be the lego lava sweep, this is considered one of the tanking (or at least, dw) enchants but since they nerfed wind lash many 2h enhance use it also, so if you are going for lava sweep and you do dual spec, you could consider adding it to your collection so its available for both

The point is, Enchants on bronzebeard, despite sharing superficial similarities to other ascension servers, are actually very different practically and you are gimping yourself if you treat them the same ie pokemon style and try to collect them all.

The analogy that is closest is we're playing WoW classic and you're complaining that it costs 50g every time you want to change your talents and you gotta go back in and select each talent again and fill up the tree and its super inconvenient and unfun and i'm telling you about this feature called dual spec which lets you save 2 different talent builds and you don't have to keep spending currency swapping every time and you're arguing with me that my advice is retarded.

I will complain about whatever I want old man. You have the privilege of reading it.

that's great I've asked for that change since the first time they overhauled MEs

Still best to apply enchants from scrolls cus its free

I don't mind the learning curve and I get that I am learning but you get scrolls from all kinds of shit with regularity. The game drives you to "save them" without understanding the cost implied with doing that. In the current state it punishes you as you overcome the learning curve and realize what fucking around cost you.

Mystic Altars should be in the capital and available end of story though. Its fucking retarded that they are all in BFE.

um ok but how exactly does the game drive you to save them? it certainly doesn't explain that very well, if at all, in the UI or any other game element that's one of the #1 complaints about the enchanting system. And it certainly does not make it convenient for a new player to save them since you have to go out to east fucking bumblefuck (Azshara, Dalaran, Kharazan, Silithus) to find an altar.

In fact your original complaint was you unknowing didn't save one you wish you had since the game failed to explain it to you. So if anything, the game goes out of its way not to drive you to save them.

Which is what it should do, since saving them is/was a fucking trap.

Now though they are saved automatically anytime you discover them in the world, and you keep the scroll, so you get the best of both worlds. you can find and apply any enchant you want for free with the scroll from anywhere without an altar, but if you end up swapping it and later regretting it and want to swap back, you can hunt down an altar (or a player with an altar) pay a huge retard fee to apply the enchant from your collection and get the enchant back.

There is absolutely no reason now to make altars more easy to access, since the only reason you need one is to reforge gamble for some rare you can't find as sort of a fail safe, or to reapply an enchant you already had the scroll for but wasted.

they just sent out 20k invites, anyone who was on the mailing list got one.

if this doesn't hit open beta soon then wtf

feeling kinda shit since I paid 35 dollars to play this peacefully a month ago and first all the epoch guys came and just filled the server with their bad ideas and now its non-stop mouthbreahers reddit style.

I liked it better when there was like 100 ppl online.