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kaid

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Meh, it's not worth it. I did one invasion, that was basically dead, so I got a ton of solo kills and then the next there is so many people I got next to nothing. For a lower level that has to run around or use boats and griffins it's a crap shoot now and you're better off just running dungeons or even questing.

Here's the bigger deal that is coming out of this mess, is Blizzard's scaling tech even working? Like, when I'm in a zone as a level 101 and some 110 comes up and hits my mobs am I going to get shit exp then as well? And is the healing still going to be completely fubar as well? This Legion event is short lived, but if this stuff translates into the expansion zones that's just full on broken.

I have not really heard anybody having major complaints about xp from mobs in legion leveling. I think one of the issues with the invasions is if you have a level hitting something a level 70 the level 100 winds up siphoning off a huge portion of the xp from the kill. The difference in xp from kills for a narrower range of say 101 to 110 is much much less of a difference.
 

Noodleface

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This exp is terrible - so why did they break it?

Even though a lot of people were afk levelling, I'm willing to bet even more people were showing up to fight these demons and gain levels the "right way."

What this nerf does is basically ensure that no one is going to come to the invasions anymore. I Just did 2 on my 91 Monk and got 15% of a level? maybe a little more? So why would she show up and do any more?

There's absolutely 0 incentive.

There's gear.. that will be outdated in 2 weeks.

Blizzard did a great thing by providing a sweet invasion mechanic with incentives for all azerothians to participate in, and then in one quick hotfix they decided "FUCK EVERYONE."

The increased exp on mobs IS NOT working as intended either. Seriously stupid shit.
 
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Ao-

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Anyone have a link to that video about the wow secrets? It was posted earlier but I can not fucking find it.
 

TJT

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This exp is terrible - so why did they break it?

Even though a lot of people were afk levelling, I'm willing to bet even more people were showing up to fight these demons and gain levels the "right way."

What this nerf does is basically ensure that no one is going to come to the invasions anymore. I Just did 2 on my 91 Monk and got 15% of a level? maybe a little more? So why would she show up and do any more?

There's absolutely 0 incentive.

There's gear.. that will be outdated in 2 weeks.

Blizzard did a great thing by providing a sweet invasion mechanic with incentives for all azerothians to participate in, and then in one quick hotfix they decided "FUCK EVERYONE."

The increased exp on mobs IS NOT working as intended either. Seriously stupid shit.

Yeah, I've only been doing them when I am AFKing to do other shit around the house. Otherwise they're worthless. If I can sit down and play. Its dungeon/quest grind all the way. Druid has like 150 crates though so that's kind of cool.
 

Valderen

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I think I'm done for now.

Demon Hunter and Monk are ready for Legion.

I've set my UI the way I like.

Not seeing any reason to log in right now unless they add more quests in preparation for Legion. Gearing up is pointless, I'm not planning on anything but Monk and DH for now so don't see the point of leveling alts right now.

I'm really excited about Legion and 30th is too slow to arrive. :)
 
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kaid

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I think I'm done for now.

Demon Hunter and Monk are ready for Legion.

I've set my UI the way I like.

Not seeing any reason to log in right now unless they add more quests in preparation for Legion. Gearing up is pointless, I'm not planning on anything but Monk and DH for now so don't see the point of leveling alts right now.

I'm really excited about Legion and 30th is too slow to arrive. :)

Yup I am just polishing off gear on a couple last 100 alts so they have decent level gear should I chose to play them in legion and then its do the weekly stuff when it comes out. Overall though I have enjoyed the invasion stuff it is way better pre patch intro quest than we have seen in a LONG time.
 

Mahes

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I left my Warrior in Westfall. He is 23rd. If it pops, I log him in, if not I work on my Hunter who is 87th now. I have plenty to do around the house and it only takes moments to fly to the areas. It will be fun opening all the chests on my Hunter.
 

Nirgon

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This exp is terrible - so why did they break it?

Even though a lot of people were afk levelling, I'm willing to bet even more people were showing up to fight these demons and gain levels the "right way."

What this nerf does is basically ensure that no one is going to come to the invasions anymore. I Just did 2 on my 91 Monk and got 15% of a level? maybe a little more? So why would she show up and do any more?

There's absolutely 0 incentive.

There's gear.. that will be outdated in 2 weeks.

Blizzard did a great thing by providing a sweet invasion mechanic with incentives for all azerothians to participate in, and then in one quick hotfix they decided "FUCK EVERYONE."

The increased exp on mobs IS NOT working as intended either. Seriously stupid shit.


They aren't going to listen but maybe a Thott graph (or several) could sway them.
 

Crone

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Does anyone know, if I can get into someone's Garrison that has a level 3 Fishing hut, and start fishing with 700 fishing, can I complete the Draenor achievement from the Garrison? Or are the Enormous fish needed for that achievement only from fishing out in the world and I'll catch different enormous fish outta someone's Garrison?
 

kaid

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I am not sure but in theory it should work. It would be pretty easy to test just get an invite with somebody who has that level of hut and throw on some bait and give it a shot. You will know pretty quick if you are getting the enormous fish or not should get them within a few casts if you can do it at all.
 

Ao-

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Does anyone know, if I can get into someone's Garrison that has a level 3 Fishing hut, and start fishing with 700 fishing, can I complete the Draenor achievement from the Garrison? Or are the Enormous fish needed for that achievement only from fishing out in the world and I'll catch different enormous fish outta someone's Garrison?
You can't catch lunkers in the garrison, but you can catch enormous there. Most of the "size" stuff is controlled by skill now, so just using the proper bate and having 900+ skill ticks it away pretty quickly.

So, once you need the lunkers, you gotta head out into draenor to get them (and I think they drop more from pools but w/e).
 

Crone

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You can't catch lunkers in the garrison, but you can catch enormous there. Most of the "size" stuff is controlled by skill now, so just using the proper bate and having 900+ skill ticks it away pretty quickly.

So, once you need the lunkers, you gotta head out into draenor to get them (and I think they drop more from pools but w/e).
Sweet! Hook it up Ao-! Need to get that Draenor Angler achievement from catching the enormous fish!

Figured it was an easy way to get the achievement rather than run around all the world to do it. Just sit still in the Garrison and fish all day!
 

Sumdain x

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that spreadsheet is pretty legit, its mostly broken english but pretty much answered all the questions i had about "what do i do before i can raid". attaching the googledoc link.
h ttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiiI4huz4NXKfx7PGvvVTyP6xu8VaDNZ4-FEn69mOhc/pubhtml#
 

Qhue

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What exactly is the logic for exp sharing to be so wonky on auto scaled mobs? Is it just a flat number that scales somewhat linearly with level and therefore quite large for alts if you solo the mob, but if it gets tagged by a second person you each get X% of a level and therefore a very small number for everyone?
 

kaid

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I think they may just be using similar xp to the grouping code. If you are a low level person with a max level person towing you around the xp rates die pretty bad. Plowing dungeons is still some what useful but that was mostly due to the dungeon quest completion xp being pretty high.

Given they work it so 5 people can tag normal mobs and get credit I am guessing they just jury rigged it to consider the first five people on the agro list "grouped" regardless of them not actually being in a group.
 

xzi

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It's the same old system where if you tag a mob at level 30 (even if the mob is level 30) and a level 100 1shots it for you, you don't get that full amount of xp. I feel like they did this to battle powerleveling obviously, but currently with scaling mobs it feels extra shitty. It won't be that much of a problem in Legion when the only things scaling are 100-110, the xp reduction won't be too ridiculous.

I really actually like the scaling mechanic, I would welcome it to everywhere in the game, but if they did it they would have to revise the xp gain imo.
 

kaid

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And plus side the invasions are giving them real world data on how the scaling mob system dropped into old worlds with huge mixes of level ranges works in practice instead of on the spreadsheet. So may be useful info for them down the road for how to work/change things to do level scaling in old world content on a wider spread basis.
 
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Valderen

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I would love for the entire game to have level scaling.

They could easily use the entire for World Quests, and other things...rather than be limited to farming the same 4-5 zones for a 2 year period each expansion. It would open tons of possibility.
 
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