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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I read most of that long winded post and too see how Brad has changed his story about the money he took from calling it an "advance" to now chaulking it up to being "backpay." I guess in his twisted head, it looks and sounds better to say "I worked and went with out any pay for 8 months and my...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah I went from willing to donate something to will see what comes out of this if anything before I spend a dime. I am what you call doubtfully hopful.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    He used to be a dev on VG before the RIF in Aug last year.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Hey Kyn, whats the status on the addition of a Necro? Are even the stretch goal classes still on the table?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    First off, to everyone else, how the heck did a post from former dev Ceythos get over looked on here? Anyway good to hear from ya Ceythos! I am sorry for the way things went down. I hope things are going better for you though. And I totally understand your stance. Money and financial problems...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I also would like to add that I too enjoyed VG a lot. I did not have many of the performance problems others have posted about until sometime in Aug of 2011 when the power went out at SOE and everything went down. When it was brought back up, for quite a while there were server side problems...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Kyn, I have been lurking here and on the pantheon site. The first disapointment to me was when Silius told me there was "No necro planned at this time." What, if anything, can be done to fix this? Adding this crucial class may make me interested again although cautiously so.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You can't edit in a shawed thread. Well get on them about adding that Necro!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Hey Frenzic, any talk of adding a Necro? It could really turn it around for Pantheon.
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    They badly need data collectors to run around live and collect packets. I personally have too much stuff in RL going on to really be of help but anyone who has some high level chars who can go from chunk to chunk clicking on anything and everything could be a real asset to the project.
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    @KrassusVGOEmulator.netseems to be comming along nicely but still have ways to go.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    ^ I agree, I dont feel it was a diobolical plan. More or less mistakes made out of desperation given Brad is out of work, no health insurance and bills are racking up. Very dangerous situation for someone running a start up to be in. It's all very sad.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I might be mis-remembering or interpreting this but when I read about the whole selling off cars etc, I took it to mean he was doing this to keep his personal expenses in check and his family afloat while he worked on this start up and game. I am not excusing Brad for taking the $45k, that...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Well I supposed it's all a moot point now. I doubt there are enough people left that know enough network code, Unity, etc to get this built on a volunteer basis. I wouldn't say its impossible as other's have pointed out, VG was built primarily by interns with little to know expirience coding...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Well since the KS failed I technically didn't donate anything. I sure as hell was not gonna pay anything on that site. When Silius said no Necro planned I all but stopped following this game entirely. Looks like none of these classes/races are going to see the light of day.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    While you're at it, get on Silius' case to add a damn Necromancer to the game. This is my biggest pet peve thus far.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    "Skullfael - Many wish they could skip this month in Terminus. Tales and legends of all that is unholy are whispered around pub tables and campfires. Frightening unexplained occurrences, deaths increase, and the Asylum of Mental Health and Research is filled to capacity during this time. A...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Thats great but WTH is Brad doing? VG II?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Really? 7 days in a week, 12 months in a year, 4 seasons, all of them renamed but basically copy paste of the current day calendar. I wonder if they will implement Leap years and "Loreraes" will have 29 days every four years... SMH. OH and the best part. They didnt even try with the horoscopes...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah he half-answered it stating that the pet class will be revealed soon. I dont see why he couldnt have said yes there will be a necro type class since he answered the SK question before posting baout the Dark Knight. IDK how to take that cause a pet class could also be a mage.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Actually he has mentioned on several occasions that this kickstarter is to get them an office, etc. Agreed its misleading because all the KS talks about is the game they want to make. But lets face it, do you really think anyone would pledge if all they talked about were the copiers, computers...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think if we really want the answers to these questions, we will have to bombard the AMA...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Wheres my necro class? :-P
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Just curious as to how this might be different than say the KS making it to $800k with out any angel backers, and then VR getting investors involved to fund the rest of the game. All seems kind of the same to me if the get investors involved at all. I think I would be more upset that this thing...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Actually, i remember going in to splitpaw for the first time aroun level 12ish before the first revamp, was an interesting trek to make to SK at such a low level.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Pro bono publico (English: for the public good; usually shortened to pro bono) is a Latin phrase for professional work undertaken voluntarily and without payment or at a reduced fee as a public service. This start up as far as I can tell is not making any money. Whats the point of this KS or...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This doesn't give me red flags because they have said right now what is being done on this project is pro-bono. Not everyone on the team has Brad's money to live off of while the try to build something from the ground up. They have to support themselves and a family so they can't afford to work...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I never got very far in WOW as it just didnt appeal to me, but I did raid in early eq and in VG. EQ was tedious, not hard. WOW was less tedious over all. I wouldn't classify any mmo as HARD really. Having said that I would say the VG raids were probably just as difficult as WOW based on what I...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I just wanted to add in here that while not a playable race, there was an area in VG on the continent of Thestra called "Plains of Anquish." In this area you ran into a small town of people who were undead but didn't know they were undead. You actually did quests for them. So its not at all...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I will say this, looking at the KS. Ogres homeland is Icehammer Steppes, Revenant homeland is The Dead Ridges. So thats 2 different starter zones!
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yes but thats the thing. This isn't EQ, its Pantheon. So the lore is going to be different. VG's lore was also different but it still had that EQ feel in the way it played. To me atleast, anyway.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Aparently the Undead and the folks who lived on Terminus before the pantheon collisions and are thus reanimated. As far as the resurected Hero stuff, didnt EQ also have the same kind of story? Wasnt that the reason they gave for your character NOT being permanetly dead when you died? Not to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    So what do you all think of this Undead race? Too much WOW? Does this mean theres a really good chance for a necro class?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I wonder if they could get the DELL DUDE to promote this game? lol
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This loot discussion reminds me, have they said anything about NOT have color coded items? cause really that shit can suck it.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    GBS= Glowing Black Stone, had like +9 INT or something. Dropped form a stupid Gnome in Qeynos Hills Pyzjin who hardly spawned and when she did, she most of the time didnt have it. Fuck that gnome bitch! As for VG loot, I remember not only the shadow hound quest, but the quest to get my necro...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I think what made the axe fall was that COW update broke way too much stuff and SOE just said thats it. Yeah VG code is aweful. It ran like crap back then, but many comps today can brute force the crappy engine. Its just sad because again its the only decent mmo released since EQ. That really...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    well folks, i know many of you thought VG was crap, me personally, I think it was much better than many of the wow clones weve seen since. It was the only mmo I have been playing on and off for the past few years. Now its going away. As crappy as this KS has been, it truly is our only real...