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Yeah, big budget hollywood retread films are popular too... LOL

if i searched i bet half of the naysayers on this thread have stated they are sick of wow clone parade, if not all.

Do you even get that some people don't want to play a wow clone anymore after 10 years of it ? and perhaps that is why this craziness is happening ? I wish we didn't have to do this and publishers would fund a group based game, but it is not going to happen.

DO you think with EMU we can enable AAs ? Perhaps I should help you guys on this project, but i would think AAs would require modifying the client no ?>

perhaps open source vanguard is the answer ! Smed let us have at it !

Heh, got me there ! Unless of course they find other funding . . .

does this mean you won't post in this thread soon ?

Damn Grim Man is kick ass..

Maybe they should just make a really high quality porn site with a Pantheon forum. Can't be that hard to do and 15/mo is a bargain !

I would love to see a server without all that texture replacing sheet unless it fits the world... somehow restricted its the only thing i have heard about this game that is a turn off... someone said, whack picks of porn and stuff... i mean talk about instant immersion killing crap... that would...

May have to return for one last go !!!!

Topic change but SOE related... did anyone figure out what MMO Smed was talking about when he said "SWG people will be happy in the future ?" I was thinking, shit they can't be buying "the repopulation" could they ?

Yep they killed it !

Its ok to sit on the sidelines and let others carry the early torch... you don't have to buy in fully if you are not and I agree its not all about EQ direct copy or GTFO. Let it evolve... Its an idea at this point, which is having a funding struggle pretty damn early. However, given they got...

Everyone will be watching that is for sure.

I don't have the answers to your questions and your concerns are valid.. but i think relying on blizzard or SOE for a group based game is just waiting for disappointment if that is where your interest lies ... It sucks, I wish the genre didn't become a solo one but it did or i wouldn't be...

Yes, I will confess I ran a RAMDisk to kill the hitching pretty early on 08 ish ? after it was posted on the forums. Too much effort for most I completely agree.. i love to do whack shit like that but one should not have to get all whack techie to play a game.. this does not take away from the...

Yeah I agree... I played TOR some and enjoyed it a bit, not so much GW2 and i think there is a place for all these games, i just want a real group based game to come back we have not had one in forever it seems.

Thanks Merlin, i just want a social MMO where the primary basis for world exploration is grouping and the game is built around people helping people achieve something greater than what they can do themselves.. I always thought this was the beauty of MMOs and it has been lost. I mean it was the...

The point you bring up is not why Vanguard was a launch disaster, it was the tech and SOE rushing the game not the designs in the game. At this point, you are paying for those old designs which AAA publishers will not fund anymore. That's it. For the Yes Men comment, how the hell do you...

For the record i loved vanilla wow. Wow did immersion better than anyone although there wasa bit too much soloing for my tastes, there were significant dungeon experiences along the way and the classes at least at launch were designed more toward grouping with solo capability than solo classes...

sorry my friend I do not agree... pantheon is an idea at this point.. it is not at all far enough along to warrant the crazy shit people have been posting here. Is the idea worth 50 bucks ? That is everyone's personal decision... is it a guarantee ? NFW. Its a shot at something different that is...

Did not answer question ?

Payments for forums is not uncommon, what is different other than paying some person like the owner of this site who is just out for profit / numbers and advertising, you are paying to keep out the rif-raf and be part of game development... I would pay there, sooner than i would pay for FOH or...

I dont care about grinds i care about group based content as the basis for the game, not the exception and classes and abilities to support that gameplay. If you actually cared what i thought, there it is.. So what are you saying is, you want solo to cap MCMMO #1000 and because wildstar and...

Let me break it down for you simply... WHAT GAME SINCE 2007 launched with the MAJORITY of its content GROUP based.

You guys have it all figured out, Pantheon will fail no matter what funding route they take... you guys are rushing to judgement ... its too early to tell what will happen with Pantheon from a funding perspective.

It wasn't that bad man... people are blowing this way out... as I said before, I didn't have that much trouble running vangaurd in fact it ran great for me most of the time. It was unfortunate at launch that there was so much unfinished content and they had technical issues that did affect many...

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Dood do i like that we need to get creative and spend some of our own dollars to get a game we want to play ? Hell No. But you are not going to see a primarily good group based come out in the west in the next 10 years thanks to those controlling development dollars... even folks who don't...

Most didn't play it but love to be experts on something they didn't see.. and blowing through the content PLing at launch doesn't count either. Vanguard was a gem from a design perspective .. it truly gave meaning to its about the journey not the destination.

I did not really have many issues playing vanguard even at lainch and SOE rushed the game out and made people play a game in beta state not Brad.. Given that I recognize that a game with its primary content based on grouping is what the genre has lost... and that is what pantheon is setup to...

Well said sir can't argue with that summary.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Vanguard was my favorite mmo from a design perspective. All you guys are doing with your vitriol is supporting the established MMO industry and the idiots that fund and control the designs which have destroyed a genre. But hey let's shit all over someone who is trying to build a game no...

I can't wait until the kickstarter is over so the negativity here goes away... the bullshit that is being said here by many is more outrageous and ridiculous than the lousy kickstarter tiers were ( that caused the KS to shit in the first place ).. The tiers sucked and they were not ready for...