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I am not all too familiar with KS as this is the only one I contributed to .... perhaps i should go back and look at some other KS to get an idea where this one stands... I do know that nearly all of them talk about tiers for things that if the game never goes live, you will never see... so they...

would you say a significant # of kickstaters are frauds in disguise and that this one falls in that category ? If it does fall into that category, what is it about this one that says scam, fraud etc ?

I am with you sir, although i will likely take a spin with Archage and if any of "the Repopulation, Pathfinder Online, and shadowrun online" see the light of day i may try those.

Its more than that... If you design a game to have the majority of its content group based and work on good group dynamics and abilities, then you have something. Old games were built that way, new ones are not.

The simple thing that i hold onto with Pantheon is that by design it will be a group centric game. Not solo to cap like everything else... MMOs were fun when grouping was the game either questing or grinding or whatever... it doesn't really matter... since then they have become single player...

well said... in D&D 3.5 I usually play an Arcane Trickster class, which has a bit of rogue ( 1h or dual wield ) and wizard... specializing in CC, throwing the occasional AE, complete with sneak and sneak attack damage... its awesome sauce.

There is epic trolling happening on this thread.

What was a supercomputer. How about a core2duo with a 8800 gtx did that qualify at the time?

What vertical are you in something regulated? I was a programmer for the DOD for many years and frequently had side projects going on... It's hard for any company in America to come after you for anything other than an NDA leak or IP theft as a developer... Even though they say it in many...

If this project fails it makes things easy for me, likely the end of any interest in MMOs. There are other options for RPGs that are better experiences these days anyway.. And multiplayer options as well. Honestly if you want to play a real world, there are several thriving nwn2 persistent...

And you don't think this new regime was either A) getting out of MMo funding because they realized wow was not going to happen again or B) realizing that VG was not WoW, cut funding... I think you guys are pretty ignorant to who controls funding for games.. its political ... How many MMos has...

Dood you are an established troll on this thread... your statement like many is utter garbage..

Man you just don't get it at all. Where to start ? Did you even play vanguard for more than 10 levels ? If you really did you might know that the world was fucking huge and a huge ass undertaking and bigger in scope and content than any MMO since WoW. So think of a world bigger than wow, with...

who gives a shit ... we are behind these guys for what they are trying to build, not what they look like in a picture...

F that, nothing kills immersion more than hearing ppl talk ...

yep, best LFG tool i have used.

@Aradune - what are your thoughts on bringing back traps ... like D&D and adding trap removal skills to a few classes ?

Hey Brad. Have you seen DDO's group finder ? I always thought that was the best one in any game. Might want to take a look there. *note* this is not the "auto-group" flavor. Its more of a menu of available groups, in a selection of areas. The group creators can specify what classes are...

enough for us to play it and have it go sure... I stopped looking for the next big thing quite some time ago, well after retread 1000000000001

05 or 06?

Well said and good to hear. Color me excited!

Dood seriously, throwing 50 bucks at the last hope for a group based MMO is nothing. All you will have for the next XX years is solo to cap crap. That alone makes it worth it even if the rest of the game is EH. Dungeons, groups = win. 50 bucks is not a big deal to me for something that...

I am in as Pirate.

Ya jesus can we not wow the shit out of this one ? ( wishful thinking i know ).

Yes agree. I like being able to collect everything, for all parts of the quests at once. Like Vol Tuniel. And although I loved TK, TK was what you described... although tbh it was so long that i rarely did more than 1-2 parts per night and the break, was welcome. Damn i loved TK.

I think the point is, pvp will be "flip a switch" not make new stats and battlegrounds and arenas and the dumb pvp mini-game that ruined PVP in MMOs. So i think if you want VG style, that is what you would be getting here.

Ideally its more like Vanguard and less like eq. I would much prefer crawling large dungeons for named/drops/quest items over a few hours than sitting in one spot grinding away.. I thought VG had grouping done right.

They are just schills for the mainstream.

Now that SOE dumped Vanguard, why not rebuild the networking of vanguard, polish and relaunch the fucker and make a kickstarter to do it . ..

That shit looks like Mustafar.

I need to see that Zennu place with the squid heads before its gone forever, i never went in there to this day other than the entrance..

/agree Anyone who expects eqNext to be anything other than what big publishers are chasing right now are fooling themselves... and go ahead and add Trion to that mix. Although Smed is talking about something SWG-like, likely another game that will morph into whatever the investors are...

You know i am OK with colored items as long as they add more +interesting things and less +gooder things.

Did anyone contact Schilling about Brad's kickstarter... has to be someone who contacts him from this board... Or is he completely over the gaming. He must have some cash left !

ROFL

I have logged god knows how many hours in vanguard and never had a problem other than a hitch at a chunk-line... got an SSD and since it was down to like 1-2 second delay or less...

If they delayed launch and maintained 200k subs they would have been just fine, but they forced it out early. SOE forced the thing out.

SOE forced the launch... if they waited 6 months and put money into it... Many of us would have been playing it for years. It was the game most of us wanted while SOE was still thinking Wow dollars and we see how that worked for EQ2 and SWG. LOL

damn that brings up some old memories

SOE has proven fail go to market decisions for years... remember SWG NGE ? ROFL.