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  1. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    The signs were correct.
  2. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Incredible. What will he say next? All signs indicate there will be no point. Let's observe...
  3. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Gav's not broken, just bent.
  4. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    I'm genuinely curious how far you're willing to go to make no point. Gavinrad: For science!
  5. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    OCD much? (That's not really a question, please don't answer.)
  6. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Your logical and reasonable view of race issues has no place here. Some of these guys will fight tooth and nail for the right to be as racist as they damn well please, then they'll ironically also bitch at how racism is really all black people's fault, for being so shitty. Don't rock the boat, man.
  7. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    OK, sounds like that was your last word, thank Christ.
  8. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Pavlov is creaming in his grave right now.
  9. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Apparently you're committed to responding to anything I say, even if you have nothing relevant or intelligent to say. Does this please you?
  10. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Thanks for clearing that up.
  11. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    You're wasting your time. Hodj reads with blinders and projects when he should infer. He also loves to go off on tangents irrelevant to the point. He thinks it's cute, too.
  12. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    The president's not about to say something that will make the entire population look like morons or the media look like manipulative liars. He should, but he won't. Instead, he's taking the public's outrage (misplaced as it is) and channeling it towards more productive issues such as the very...
  13. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Most intelligent post in this entire thread. Most posters here choose to consider those who are upset with the result of the trial as being ignorant or brainwashed or emotional or irrational... "Why don't they just look at the facts?" A better question would be "Why was it so easy to get so many...
  14. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Context is everything. "Wakandan" is no different from "American Inventor" or "nagger" or "n*gger" if it's used in a racist or hateful context. I would say that, due to the charged nature of the word, it's generally not considered socially acceptable for the common vernacular. In certain contexts, it's a word...
  15. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Agreed.
  16. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Here's the situation: I studied language acquisition. It's important to what I do. I'm not an authority by any means, but when I tell you something about the nature of language, it's because that's a conclusion generations of people studying languages and language acquisition have come to. You...
  17. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Worst. Communicator. Ever.
  18. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    English itself changes frequently. Many rules that used to be strictly enforced are not just found in outdated textbooks. We add new words to our vernacular all the time, often because of the influence of pop culture. For example, "Google" is now considered a verb, as in "I Googled the Spanish...
  19. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Wrong. Next. What you're failing to grasp is that the very nature of communication itself is entirely context-sensitive. The prime minister of Japan might be an eloquent and intelligent speaker, but if he tried to talk to you he'd sound like a blubbering idiot. Doesn't make him a bad...
  20. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    If it makes you more comfortable to consider Ebonics a dialect, that's fine. I'm not "lowering the bar" for anyone. I believe Jeantel, as well as anyone else who speaks primarily in "Ebonics" should make a large effort to speak in a manner more conforming to societal expectations. But to accuse...
  21. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    I agree completely. Like I said, I don't think we should be teaching "Ebonics" in schools or accepting it as a valid alternative to "conventional" English. Whether it's fair or not, people who hear someone speaking like Jeantel will make assumptions about that person's intelligence. Speaking...
  22. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    How is it not broadly accepted or utilized? There are whole communities that speak it almost exclusively. By "not systematic", are you saying that there is too much variation that exists within what we would consider "Ebonics"? Hell, there is tremendous variation in "standard" English, too. I...
  23. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    I agree with you 100%. How does Ebonics not fit that definition?
  24. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Your son is at the phase where he's observing grammatical patterns and trying to apply them to his own speech. This is normal, and a good thing! He's very likely often heard the possessive used with an "s" ("Mommy's", "Daddy's", "his", "hers", "yours"), so his brain is deducing that he should...
  25. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Of course, "Ebonics" is a language. Language is what allows you to communicate ideas to others. When you grow up in an area where your friends and family speak a certain way, especially if you're exposed primarily to this way of speaking during your critical phase (before you turn 13 or so)...
  26. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Citation needed.
  27. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    I hope this is wrong. Hold Trayvon's parent's accountable for what?
  28. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Martin wasn't "looking into houses", though, was he? And the only way he matched the description was by being black and wearing a hoodie. He didn't have a noticeable tattoo or scars on his face or an eye patch or crutches or something. He was black and wearing a hoodie. While the responsibility...
  29. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Breaking up any monopolies is a good idea, but I also fail to see how the quality of the news would change if big media corporations were broken up into smaller companies. The problem is it's all about money, and it's going to continue to be all about the money no matter how many smaller...
  30. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    I agree 100% with your statement. Having said that, it's much easier to identify other people sticking to a flawed point of view because they initially decided it was the right one than it is to identify that same behavior in oneself. We probably all do it to a certain extent. I've been part...
  31. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Well, I was paraphrasing what the jury lady he was interviewing was saying.
  32. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    You're right, a 17 year old should not die because of bad decisions, but it happens all the time. Alcohol poisoning, car surfing, drug overdoses... everybody makes stupid decisions sometimes. Most of the time we learn from them and move on. For an unlucky few, those stupid decisions end in...
  33. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Yeah, but that same evidence was enough to convince 3 of them that Zimmerman was guilty outright. If there had been 2 murder votes and 2 manslaughter votes (a difference of just 1 person), they probably would have decided to charge him withsomething. If there had been 2 murder votes and 3...
  34. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Apparently the jury's initial vote was: 3 not guilty 1 2nd degree murder 2 manslaughter The verdict could have really easily went the other way with another random 6 jurors.
  35. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Hey Veil, I think the most important fact for you to consider is that, after having run away from Zimmerman, Martin turned around and came back to where Zimmerman was, presumably for the explicit purpose of attacking him. Zimmerman actually did stop following Martin as soon as he was advised...
  36. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    OK, journalists can say whatever they want according to the constitution (as can anyone else), I get that, but not according to their jobs. Paula Deen lost all the business deals she had going for stuff she said. She was allowed to say it, but there were consequences. Journalists who make...
  37. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Sure, but the case is over now. All the information is there. It's just grossly irresponsible to keep repeating that Zimmerman got out of his car after he was told not to. How are these people not losing their jobs or at least being forced to correct themselves? Journalists can't just say...
  38. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Did I miss something? Why do so many sources consistently state that Zimmerman got out of his car after being told not to? Hasn't it been clearly shown that he was only told not to follow Martinafterhe had already left his car?
  39. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    Yes, the media caused it by tapping into an already existing unease in the population. And of course people should have considered the facts and looked at the case more closely, but not many people were as engrossed as we were and, as I mentioned before, not many people even had any reason to...
  40. Tanoomba

    Justice for Zimmerman

    What did you get RRPed for, Trollface?