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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Completely agree with this. Trying to play off nostalgia will only carry them so far, and honestly that well looks like it is running a bit dry. They need to stop trying to appeal to people who enjoyed EQ, and start appealing to people who could of enjoyed something like EQ. Which isn't a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    If EQNext is a total failure I imagine Smed (and the rest of SOE) are out on their ass. I can't say that I would be sorry to see SOE disappear.
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    Ultima Online - IPY3 release 2013

    That is a shame. Was thinking about at least goofing off on it for a few days. Love me some UO.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Oh man the drama from them shutting down EQ/EQ2 would be hilarious...
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    Vanguard - I don't give a fuck if it's dead, It's still brown as fuck (Download link in 1st post)

    Sounds like Vanguard failed harder then we thought. If they have been running it at a loss for a long time then that piece of shit was truly a waste of time/money. They should of just let it die with Sigil.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I am now pretty damn pissed we didn't get this. A quick little joke on your end > their whole kickstarter campaign.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    A problem Brad and the rest of VR created.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    These have to be the same people from the Vanguard beta forums.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Which is crazy to me. Those are the people who have already given you money. Pissing them off is a great way to watch your kickstarter go backwards.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah it is common practice. Still though it was nice to see a 14er post that wasn't drooling on his keyboard while he typed.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I disagree Lithose. Our rangers were used for taking DTs. A noble line of work.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The only book that needs to be made from this is Kickstarter for Dummies.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Well it is pretty moot anyway since none of those classes are going to see the light of day.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Which is funny because that was one of the things people didn't want to see happen. Classes that can fill multiple roles. Old school is tanks tank, healers heal, dps kills shit. When those lines get blurred you get WoW. Which I don't think is a bad thing, but seems to go against what this...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The game needs TWO knight classes though! It is just another area that didn't get much thought.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The way it works is how it has to stay though. If someone feels a kick starter is garbage they need to be able to pull their support. If you were committed to the pledge no one would drop big money on these. It does open it up to trolling though. The people doing the 10k trolling need to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    If there isn't new information on the game though isn't it alright to shoot the shit until there is?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    These are our forums. We choose to deal with stupidity the way we see fit. It is really quite simple. If you guys don't like the way we are talking about Pantheon, or the way we are treating shills then go away. No one is forcing you guys to post here, or read our posts.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    No he didn't. He came here to white knight a game that doesn't even exist. If he wants to be excited for the game then that is his right, but he doesn't get to come here and start calling people trolls because not everyone is hanging on Brad's every word. If he wanted to be apart of this...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Seriously? You can't see how more information can start to paint a better picture about what they really have, and are capable of making? The information they have revealed has been extremely generic and tossed together within the last few days. They are not holding back the goods. These are...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    All anyone needs to know about Delaware they can learn from Wayne's World.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    They HAVE revealed their whole hand. He stated as much. They are making this stuff as they go and that is a horrific way to run a KS campaign. They are not holding back a mountain of amazing information for later. They are just trying to keep tidbits rolling out until the end.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This isn't surprising. The people who have put the most work into this project are not even on it. I knew this was going to be a train wreck when they put the KS up and then went radio silent. Leaving people like Troy to try and keep the information flowing. Someone even had to compile a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Trending towards 92% now. Going to see one of those 10ks get pulled again before too long and tank the number heh.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Didn't Curt's game have something to do with heroes coming back to life as well?
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yes, and not every Jan 14 kid is getting mocked. The ones getting shit on are the ones making ignorant comments about the community based on their couple weeks in this thread. Or the ones in full blown fanboy mode who can't stand seeing negativity. This place doesn't need a bunch of pussies...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Lots of lurkers just posted numbers to hit the 5 post requirement to view screenshots.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That is my problem with features like that. It is also an area that I think causes the most drama when discussing game design. The people looking at realism/immersion seem to forget that at its core this is still suppose to be a video game. They see their character trying to survive in a...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah. My tower made people uneasy in UO.
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    DAOC: Origins - New Server

    The behavior you saw is not uncommon actually. Groups roaming in RvR are often preformed from guilds/friends and they are anti social as fuck. It was the same way back during classic. If you are playing a class that is wanted just keep at it. You'll find groups that will accept anyone...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    My eyes are conditioned to this now. The first change was jarring, but leaving FoH for morenutz before the color was set right was making my eyes bleed heh.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Like I said, some thin skinned asshole. Let the door and a bus hit you on the way out.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It is just sad that some of them eat crayons for breakfast.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The thing is that some of you take ANYTHING that upsets you as "trolling". Someone coming to this thread saying that the game looks like shit instantly gets labelled a troll by some thin skinned asshole. Someone has a different opinion than you? He must be a troll! It is pathetic honestly...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Lol, what a load of bullshit.
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    Why did Rift fail?

    I still find Rift enjoyable. The harbinger soul for mages is fucking awesome. This genre needs more melee mages!