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Other KS projects do this though (Repopulation), they provide a nice graph/layout of exactly how they thing the money is going to be allocated. Nothing like that here. Since everyone who pledged is essentially an 'investor' and not simply a random message board fanboy, you would that something...

This is the part that fanboys forgot. That by 2004, there were a ton of EQ players that were sick of EQ and all it's mechanics. They were ready for something like WoW.

I agree, if they keep opening slots at lower tiers, that's what people will pledge. TBH though, I really think they need to improve the KS a whole lot before anyone considers those high tiers.

So far it looks like there going to need a whole lot more backers at higher tiers. Majority are at 45 which is to be expected, but it really needs more at least at the 100 tier. I still think it's going to need close to 10k backers to succeed.

What about using a tablet as a second screen similar to how BF4 uses them with the battlescreen (via an app)? You could have the tablet show your inventory/map/etc.

Were progression servers really that popular though in the grand scheme of things? One thing I've never understood about those that want EQ again was, if you want it so bad how come no one flocks to project99 or even EQ which is still different enough from WoW at this point.

I thought the 'rush' to contested content was getting there before anyone else? There's a difference now. You see back then if people keep continuously losing out on shit, they stuck with the game mainly due to their being lack of options of anything else to play. Not so in 2017.

Something else that I've seen other KS projects do, show where the money is going. Since this is crowdfunded (at least initially), show how your end budget is going to be divided. How much do you think you'll need for infrastructure, licensing, world building, staff, etc. I think that's what...

I agree. I guess my big question to the supporters are, what makes you think this is going to be a reality? This exact same scenario (actually in a less favorable state since Vanguard was financed by MS) happened already, from this same person.

You miss Kreugen's point though. That only benefits the ones that go first or second, and in today's MMO world, it's usually one group of people all the time. What happens to everyone else then? Sucks for them, play a different game?

Aren't you basically describing vanilla WoW on a PvP server? Tauren Mill?

Well, what happens if he cannot crowdfund beyond one of these goals? Then at that point he's relying on publisher money or not having it in there. I'm not into PvP, but I know plenty are and if your going into alpha beta knowing you probably are not going to launch with that aspect of the...

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I think Star Citizen is an anomaly and really not comparable since it's really looking to reintroduce a whole genre (although I guess you can make that argument here, millions of current MMO players would disagree). Even that project has got it's fair share of criticism, despite how much money...

I think a clear definition needs to be determined as to what is a 'wow clone', since it seems there are many variations. Is it simply by leveling via quest hubs? Instancing (Brad did say in rare occasions there may be some of this)? Yellow exclamation point? Also, I think a publisher would...

The interesting thing here is while I agree with you , there are people who are pledging, including some in this thread that don't even want vanilla WoW, they want EQ 2.0 (which I think is impossible). The biggest hurdle this game will have is pleasing even most of the hardcore fanboys.

They (SOE) may see it the same as a lot of others do, that there is a ton of risk for something that's not even conceptualized on a design doc or anything like that. It may be no big deal to drop 45, but I don't SOE would only be dropping 45 if you get my drift. Besides, they know the state of...

Yes, it was a raging success, during a time where there was no competition. Lets also not credit him with the fact that the game is still running, Ultima Online is still running too. He was part of one game that was great, failed at recreating that game some 8 years later when the industry...

Are you telling me that any moron can start a kickstarter and say 'we're going to make an MMO with EQ grassroots', put a bunch of text on different ideas about what made EQ great and how you're going to visit the glory days again and you guys would gladly donate money to that? Because it brings...

I would call that a leap of faith, considering the track history we're talking about here. Ex-Sigil Employee Speaks Out

That's exactly my point. If it's been since then, how come no research was done on KS. I understand the point that they are devs and are not used things like crowdfunding, etc. But that's even more reason to do research beforehand, look at some other projects and see what they did, etc...

I agree the KS seems to be something they didn't really plan out. I mean, if they were talking about this kind of stuff for a few months now, you would think they would have the tiers properly mapped out. But everything seems so 'on the fly', basically reading here (and maybe a few other...

I think that average is slightly off based on the 10,000 pledge. I think it's like what some others said. For the hardcore 'pie in the sky' people, this is a no brainer to pledge. But for most, there needs to besomethingtangible to at least get excited about. Something that shows that this...

I'm curious about this. If this is how it works, how does that prevent people from not gaming the system? Like someone can pledge the full KS goal amount? On top of that, what if the 22nd comes and it turns out that KS cannot collect enough funds to reach goal (say it barely passes). Then...

Reading those comments highlights what kind of uphill climb Brad has. Some gamers have long memories. I think people forgot how much of a cluster Vanguard was and the massive disappointment that ensued. There are few games that had the kind of hype of Vanguard. Not only that it failed, but...

I don't see any issue with the idea of pledging and kickstarter as a whole. There is risk just like with anything else. But it's one thing to risk 45, it's something else with it's 250. I mean, 250 is 250, with the risk of getting either a) zero return due to the game not coming out or b) the...

Yes I know. You never know, 100000+ bundles might infuse more into the mod and give people a taste once the standalone comes along a little further.

OMG Sold!!!!! Dayz here I come.

Yea I picked it up. One of the few bundles where I didn't own any game. I'd say Humble more than anything else is the prime driver to how my Steam library has ballooned.

I agree that mounts should be a long term goal, something that is achieved really at end game or high levels. I also think things like porting should be limited, make it a cottage industry again limited to only certain classes. I can tell you right now that the day EQ died for my wife (who I...

The thing is people do remember Vanguard as a shitfest and will not get beyond that, at least beyond it to fund another game through kickstarter. Honestly, I think it's remote this gets fully funded (not the kickstarter goal, but the 6 million stretch goal). Even if it does, there's just not...

I thought it was very good. It's one of those shows that's pretty dialogue heavy and you need to pay attention to what's being said. It's also one of those shows that probably wouldn't be as good if it didn't have two A list actors headlining it. It's amazing how McConaughey has resurrected...

Here's the problem and there is no getting around it. This game is being designed for a generation that played EQ back in 1999. Well, the average age of people who played EQ at that time I'd say was probably 18-20. It's 15 years later. That same player is probably in his mid to late 30's...

They did, the PI killed them.

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SD has to score before the half I think.

This is like watching the Heat play, you know what the result is going to be but you hope it's different anyway.

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That's a TD.

Wow, that was 6 right there.