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I's also worth pointing out that WoW was had significantly less polish post-40 and while better then those that followed still changed alot of systems around, Early on people zerged the shit out of Strat etc with a raid, did 10-mans with people dropping for quests, and so on. So I think for a...

Fun for a week if you are ok with quest hubs.

Maybe because Garriott acted like an arrogant ass in some interviews back then? Was the reason I passed up on this game anyway.

You just needed more money to buy bags in Pantheon admit it! I'd like to point out this isnt EQN - everything that's wrong about current MMOs doesnt really apply to EQNL that for all of this year is just minecraft + exploring random biomes. You do make a point about EQN itself though and...

I think that's just a matter of a wrong premise. Everyone going into a LoL match obviously expects to drive his enemies before him and hear the lamentation of the women. But LoL by definition in a situation of consensual PVP. However, in an MMO that has more activities then PVP this changes, and...

Too lazy to find that shut up and take my money pic but just imagine I posted that.

Dorfs bringing in the money non-shocker.

Well EQ didnt have encounter locking either, and they've not said a word about loot in that regard. I doubt they go EQs way there (do more damage to loot), but that doesnt mean GW2 either (although I could live with GW2). Might be loot is randomly given to anyone contributing past a threshold...

I could go for like a week of Qwerty posting tbh. It's entertaining for a couple of days, especially on slow news days, which is like every day for this KS.

Eh, dont think that's a big concern. You want to reach concurrent users of that number per server anyway, and eventually you want several servers (like 6-12 if his 50k subs is believable? not sure really. EVE has 500k subs and cnocurrent peaks of 50something iirc, and alot of catasses). So if...

Arenanet took my hundred bucks sometime in march 2012 for the august release. MWO in like april for the August closed beta. Both non-KS. I also have money on Roberts and potentially Brad but thats both KS. Bottom line for me is 'will i spend it anyway' and 'do i want the extra perks for...

The reason I'm in is the exploring. I found exploring Cubeworld fun even with skipping most combat. This looks TONS better, adds gathering and building, and will add more features as they advance towards EQN. Maybe I'll even enjoy the building, but I'm afraid my mix of impatience and...

Is it a tank/heal/dps or tank/heal/cc trinity in that book of yours? Just wondering where you stand.

I like the dwarf update, it's not as "out there" as most of the crappy planar stuff. You should suggest names for new content for Pantheon, your pattern is right up their alley

While I dont want a return to '99, this thread is kinda the home turf for that faction. It's hard to see the folks that flat-out refuse the 'EQ is king' mentality and ridicule it as anything but trolls. It's like Dumar's posts in the WoW thread, or Itzena's posts anywhere but the WoW thread.

GW2 combat is pretty decent imo. Only pitfalls are them balancing it based on PVP and heals that arent self-only are too weak. And from those two PVP balance is the bigger issue. They said you'll have healers in EQN (I think), just that you dont need them or can do stuff without them. That...

I havent played much from that list, but I think some - probably most - entries brought advancement to the genre? SWG is probably missed more then old EQ I think, it was a very unique animal (wasnt for me though). GW2 has several good features that I really enjoy. WAR brought public quests into...

Yea, was only the best illusion spell, lets farm it out to anyone. Hope I can buy some port spells for my necro in the KS add-ons because those dont have combat relevance either. They'd be self only maybe so you dont step on the wizard money. Minor gripes aside, I think it is not a good...

If you count the bi-weekly updates a big commercial for the new chash shop weapons/gimmicks it's probably closing in on 90%...

I need to make an "I liked EQN before it was cool" avatar pic. It's nice to see the thread swing around though, because like it or not, this game is going to be the MMO revolution. Really the only downside to this game is the EQ name on the box, everything else so far is at least okay-ish to...

Playing a bit of TOR single player mode until (hopefully) the EQNL alpha hits this weekend.

Do they specify if the group feature is automated and you get penalized for not putting up with the clowns?

I am a big fan of that idea and the poll looks like it will be hard to spin if they dont think so as well. Although judging by the wording (awesome!!) they want weather in. I hope pantheon uses weather, nice unity vid.

Those tweets and the resulting KS presentation scream VG more then any of the trolls here.

Are you making characters in this game? I figured you just pick the female or male avatar and that's it.

Ever, Jane reached their KS goal though! Lore is a matter of personal taste, what they are offering here lore-wise just isnt my thing. Regarding home zones, ogre lore pretty much spelled out that player ogres are exiles from the tribe, there'll probably be a similar reason for undead to be...

There were and they did distract from the enchanter spell lines. But again that's the problem of an old game. A new game can simply look at it and find a solution (although I doubt everyone would agree with it). To give out illusions as hard-to-get toys and retain the enchanter spell uniqueness...

If they stick with copying LoL it'll be fine, LoL has healers. But EQN will sink or swim with Storybricks, everything else about it is nice but secondary. Then again what do I know, GW2 is in my top 5 MMOs. Would still be playing if their post-launch strategy had been different.

I agree that more swag to lure people towards several hundreds pledged is no solution. There need to be more backers, substantially more. Taking myself as an example, I have no quarrel with Brad's past. I pledged $45 immediately (not more because first impression was the higher tiers are meh...

Luclin came up with AA, which are like the best thing ever in my book. The expansion had plenty of flaws too though, like possibly being less finished then GoD.

Its a modern MMO so why communicate? Single player for +gooder is all you need. The other people are probably on a different quest step anyway, thats always such a hassle.

Isnt the Alpha supposed to start "this month"? There arent too many days left in this month and I have nothing that really tickles my fancy right now (even played some TOR, still meh).

I get what you're saying and agree ... like I just wrote the concern is more about the enc class being pointless to bring due their binary tools being in OFF mode. Looking at EQ1 once you shut down mez/charm/root and considering that enc nukes agroed like hell you felt pretty useless at times...

You are right there, generally you could do that pretty well in EQ (done groups without healer or tank plenty, though obviously not with CC beig one myself). I want people to have options but not simply say "ok CC off for this and that and these zones". hence the request to have both enough CC...

Good: mention of crowd control classes instead of enchanter, so hopefully more choices for CC in order to not bottleneck groups Bad: mentioning they will design content so the crowd control class isnt needed. This reminds me several times through EQ where my contribution was buff bitch and...

I think they have all that in GW2? I'd say if there isnt a clear disadvantage to being in a zerg people will zerg.

I've had the impression "this guy really loves his job" from various low-key people I dealt with in person, it doesnt take leading a huge department to bring that across to your customer. Brad is telling us that after defeats and soul-searching and what not he came to the conclusion that making...

They can account for everything regarding population spread over time, and design and place content accordingly, even with several cities. Have a dungeon below the city. Have raidable stuff nearby. Place them so that people naturally flow together while having a distinct racial home. Of course...

Did they said or is it assumption? Factual references to raids seem to be scarce, and all this talk of multiple dungeons cannot be automatically applied to raids as well.

That's pretty easy to account for. We can go back forth about it but in the end, the actual raid force only has time for x mobs per night. The endgame of that discussion is "they park a fully buffed raid force at every spawn". I hope we agree it gets ridiculous way before that point. Bottom...