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I would prefer it if, using your exampple, they just made a cleric and a blood mage class entirely seperate and had them share the same spells where it makes sense. It has the same effect but preemtively stops and changes or additions to one sub-class from overpowering or nerfing the other. That...

I dunno, I'd be happy with that result too, regardless of my pledge. I mean you have MMORPGeezus, you wouldnt care about milk you spilt 3 years ago.

His blatant hate aside he has a point, that is exactly what they are doing. However at least they've picked up on the fact that they need to do it and are wrapping the brainstorming from the last months into some kind of design doc. Better late then never I suppose, they certainly paid for it in...

It depends on their lore - which why it's dumb as fuck for any iteration of EQ lore that stays even remotely true what has been established in the franchise. Pantheon is a new canvas, so if they can convince me of it with a great history and background lore I could accept it. That's gonna be...

It depends alot on what they mean with those subclasses though. I think EQ2 at first had you permanently pick one, same with TOR. We'll have to wait and see. And honestly I would prefer an informed choice at lvl5 (of 20, a quarter to cap) to the WoW spec back'n'forth crap. I just prefer...

Hoping they make one of the rogue, shaman and wizard specs utility, otherwise that role is way underrepresented and on a narrow flavor. I find the class selection a bit lame and them inventing two specs each only goes so far to fix it. Warrior being the prime complaint. A cavalier subclass of a...

Why wouldnt it be? I mean sure with today's hardware it can be much higher, but if they recognize server population limits as tool and not a technical limitation they can set it however they want. Watch your mouth, Wasteland the MMO (done well) would be awesome!

There should be a rule against mentioning that without quoting the picture.

You think Ut could go 10 posts in this thread especially without personally adressing Brad's past, "relic designers" in general or claiming to have inside sources? I dont think he could manage that. Meh, dont care much for raids, they're a genre staple so I dont mind them but if they left them...

Do you consider that you can take a product and iterate it in different directions? What you are saying about the last decade of WoW clones (which is an EQ clone itself) is true - but they generally change their designs in the same direction. Which might not the be the only route that could be...

I have great hopes for EQN so another game using it's subcomponents can only be good news... in like 5 years?

I agree with your opinion, I want this game made. I also want it to be great and last for years. I said it earlier but if they get funded hopefully this turns into something like EVE where the company sticks to their guns enough to have the game grow for years. However, your first sentence...

I dont know disciples but it sounds meh. Hoping for a WAR warrior priest for the plate version.

There really isnt a fantasy MMO where you are just a scrub making his way in the world any more, where a huge obstacle is an ogre warlord or evil wizard threatening one village. Current EQ1/2 are all about epic dragon time travel alternate universes, WoW is about averting the end of the world...

Isn't Wildstar made by new folks? Not that it interests anyone in this thread as a game, just asking about the devs. Also Anet made their first MMO with GW2 and had split from Blizzard way before WoW so they dont carry that taint, and imo it shows (for good or worse). What the genre really...

Still waiting for a great Star Wars MMO, so I'd be cool with that. Blow shit up certainly fits Star Wars, bonus points for being able to tear down a wall onto some stormtroopers with Jedi telekinetics.

New KS to buy VG off SOE? If they accept the market value a_skeleton_03 can do it on his own even.

I agree that there's probably more interest in the idea of this game, but the issue of not reaching everyone is secondary. I bet 9/10 look at the kickstarter, go "heh, no way" and close it again. Presentation/info is their primary issue, then next on the list as secondary is reaching out to all...

I didnt like the dungeon setup in TOR because *drumroll* they werent integrated in the leveling experience. They started on the fleet, to have any chance to form or join a group you had to piss your time away without playing while waiting for members. (similar in GW2 with LA actually but there...

As far as I could tell I couldnt raid if I wanted to, and I'll not throw them money for what is a likely a 1-week lull in other game interests. Still miffed that I didnt get the cartel coins for my old sub.

You are spot on. The real problem with GW2 was that most people didnt even TRY to use those systems like field/combos. Look through the GW2 thread, it's entirely ignored because people got by in the easy-mode of beta weekend 3+ and launch, and so did the facerolling masses. You are absolutely...

That is meant for the EQNL thread isnt it?

People are right that you need a game first before lore can sweeten it up, but in the end for me at least its one of the deciding factors. Finally caught up with the last days of this rollercoaster. Nice to see that some of the '14ers dont suck completely, too bad that there is nothing really...

Without GW2 doing even more then that I wouldnt believe it all because my other point of comparison for update speed would have been WoW. Now I just think that folding money hats takes up alot of the dev time for Blizz.

They announced monthly content updates post-launch a while ago didnt they? GW2 pretty much proved that you can push out a medicore update every two weeks, and that's without any actual endgame to keep people engaged. If Wildstar's post-launch approach works out and they stay on schedule with...

I patched this up as well, been a bit bored the last couple of days and felt like Star Wars. I did some missions on Voss where I left off and noticed all the reward money goes "into escrow", which I assume is one of the F2P abuses they have in place? Never played since they went F2P so does...

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Bias aside, he has a point. Assumingthe list and qualifications are correct there are alot of people that think of stuff but only few to put those concepts into game format. That might explain why they have so little to show as far as playable stuff or ingame screens goes. On the other hand...

I like the idea of bane weapons, implementation didnt thrill me. Making people not use their shinies isnt the best solution (same with all those shitty vehicle quests in WoW or overkill on bundle events in GW2 ... that stuff is fun if it is uncommon but not every other quest/heart). I think...

The issue most people have isnt even funding an idea, I'll fund the idea for the project with closed eyes IF I have believe the guys that claim to make it into a game will accomplish that. I dont believe that here. Currently I'm giving them a 50/50 (at best) after getting funded because of the...

I'm sure it looked good on the sketches. Half of Lion-O's fail was the WoW paladin armor. Would actually be interesting to see the concept artworks for him. EQ vet opinions dont mean shit when you're making a game for mass appeal - you of all should know that.

I wish WoW had kept their NDA until release - wouldnt have mattered for their success and all these tards would now complain about so much info being out, a good game keeps the NDA, yadda yadda. Seriously though, this being under NDA without an official release date is no surprise at all. And...

That's ok, if you stick around the bitter will rub off on you.

My non-existant minecraft skills wouldnt yield more then a broken down Karanas tower anyway, and that'll still fit on the plot!

So essentially EVE's system. Buy sub with dollars or work your ass off in game to pay it with isk, until you are established enough in the game that it pays itself without much effort.

I'm not sure they can make changes like that within the running kickstarter - actually from snippets mentioned here throughout the week I'm sure they cant. And if they pull it down they no longer have those 200k to work with. At that point they might as well rethink their entire strategy ... or...

It really depends on the upkeep imo. Have they said anything in this regard? Personally I would hope that you can keep one plot that size without an upkeep. I hate having to micro stuff like that in games I dont actively play, and I equally hate loading it up again after a couple of months...

Looks like a mix of Skinks and D&D 4th ed draconians or what they call them now. Not bad I guess but I hope they settle for the more muscular versions if this is to be a large race.

I never played VG (well beta to lvl10 or so, wasnt impressed and had tech issues). I'm judging this kickstarter like any other that features a game I might want to play, not on any names. I've spent a good amount of money on Path of Exile because it shows that they *want* to make the game they...

I doubt Scott Hartsman if you mean him is any hope for the kind of game this thread is about. He is good at going into a project and whipping it into shape. I'd see him as an engineer or manager but not as designer or artist. That's just from forum knowledge of the guy of course, so it could be...