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Oh look, the racebaiters are back. Great.

Exactly how is the high5ing disgusting? No one is celebrating that a kid died, we are celebrating that the media and racebaiters like Al Sharpton was unable to railroad someone into jail.

Yes, and a few others did, which shows that reason isn't completely dead in this world.

Fixed. Fucking beaten

I like your slant of this article, that it is dealing with right-wing crazies or something. If you actually read the article, the very clear crazies are the New Black Panthers and the NAACP, who absent of any evidence of racial intent on Zimmerman's part, keep pushing the story.

Maybe, but I have found it interesting that even with how televised this trial was, and how we had two huge threads on it, we still have uninformed people showing up and then say shit like "I didn't follow the facts of the case or watch the trial, but jesus, that Zimmerman guy should be in...

Why are you so interested in getting the thread locked? Stop trying to suppress our speech.

Oh please, there is no way you really believe you didn't deserve a timeout. Hell, you are lucky you haven't been RPPed for being 95% a RSS feed. You are the one poster on this forum that could be completely replaced by a bot that posted random Reuters links with a title.

So Hodj, in a thread that was essentially about the lynching of a young black child by a white man, you have the gall to post a picture of a hanging? That is very insensitive and I have contacted Al Sharpton.

Well, we shouldn't feel bad about it but we should hopefully feel like it is an issue we should address. For example, in that being yet another reason that we should try to deal with income inequality and get rid of the war on drugs, which both contribute heavily to black on black violence...

Btw, on that graph with percentage likelihoods.... So while the disparity looks silly on its face, it is hard to draw too many conclusions. It is possible a great deal of the black on black violence is gang-related, which is hardly ever going to be justified, which would bias the data without it...

Lets please not have a repeat of redshift/hodj/tanoomba again today. Please. For my sanity.

Shit article is shit. Again, using the Zimmerman case to bring up SYG and attack it, even when SYG had zero to do with the case.

Oh, I am sure he will find some incident of someone saying "The only thing changed by Zimmerman bringing a gun, was that Zimmerman survived" or something, when the real implication was that there was a serious chance of Zimmerman dying if he didn't have it. I think the problem with Tanoomba...

So by this, are you trying to infer that the Zimmerman verdict was biased towards zimmerman by race? Seriously?

Nostradamus didn't predict shit, stop bringing his name up, god I hate all the stupid pop-culture bullshit about him.

What you fail to see is that this movie isn't some regurgitated crap with CGI like Transformers with shitty blurred action. They put a lot of work into the CGI and monsters, the action feels real, weighted and grounded, it is an homage to the japanese monster movie and at that it is fucking...

Surprisingly good show.

I remember liking it as a kid, but man that clip is horrible. I sure had no taste as a kid.

So you are saying it is statistically zero vs actually zero? A distinction without a real difference?

Well, the real point is, it doesn't matter if he was an honor student or not. That is immaterial to whether he attacked Zimmerman or not.

Asshole, there goes 35 minutes of my life

I'm not a grill expert but much of that food looks burnt.

Fuck you all about wanting this thread to be closed. Plenty of shit to still talk about. Don't know how the Zimmerman suits against NBC will go, don't know about DoJ. Don't know if we will have riots or demonstrations tonight, or if Obama will issue yet another press release.

Tanoomba, I am sure you have already watched this, but I just rewatched from 40 minutes in to 60 minutes in and I just don't see how watching this testimony doesn't essentially settle the point about whether his life was at risk.

It really is immaterial whether he wanted to kill GZ or not. Maybe he just wanted to teach him a lesson, or maybe kill him. Either way, the actions certainly could have led to a death if they had continued on. They didn't though, because Zimmerman happened to have a gun on him.

So trying to move on from the rep/neg shit that no one cares about... Should the media be sued and does Zimmerman deserve a reward from: 1) The media deliberately using old photos of Zimmerman and Martin to make Martin appear younger and Zimmerman more threatening. 2) CNN and other news...

I really hope not. That would take this to a whole nother level of absurdity.

Pretty sure no one cares about +rep or -negs at this point. Its a dumb system, can we move on?

So again, the difference really is in percentages. You think it is close to 0, I put it much higher than that based on my understanding of the ME, but whatever, not worth arguing about a percentage that we can't really prove. I certainly couldn't say its 20%, or 60%. I have no idea, I just think...

You may not be concerned about it, but the differences matter to me. I am a big believer in the principle of self-defense. If you start a physical confrontation with someone, they should be able to respond with deadly force if they believe that they might receive grievous harm or even death. You...

Zimmerman not having a gun would have 1) Increased the chance Zimmerman might have been killed 2) Increased the chance Zimmerman would have received grievous bodily harm 3) Decreased the chance Trayvon Martin was killed Since from all the evidence, Trayvon Martin went back from his house...

My only change is that I believe there was a possibly that Zimmerman could have died to Trayvon or even vice versa if the fight kept going on. Not having a gun does not guarantee that someone doesn't die. Do you disagree with that? Surely you don't think there is 0% chance that Zimmerman might...

This whole thing about alt accounts seems silly. Why would Tanoomba bother to generate an alt to neg Hodj? Tanoomba has been pretty straight up with arguing with people, for weeks if necessary. Makes no sense. Hodj, relax my man!

Sorry, if Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, no one would have died from a gunshot.

The problem with that pov is that you can apply it to anything. If police officers didn't carry guns, criminals would be less likely to die also. However, yes, I will concede the point that if Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, no one would have died from a gunshot. Also, if Trayvon hadn't turned...

Having a trial is important if there is some doubt on the facts of the case. There really was no doubt about the facts of this case, it is why he initially wasn't charged. All the detectives that interviewed him believed his story, even after trying to trick him. All the evidence, from phone...

I am a bit confused at the Hodj/Tanoomba duel. It seems they essentially agree on everything. Zimmerman should have been acquitted, he didn't break any laws, Trayvon came back from his house to initiate the fight. The only disagreement is whether or not Zimmerman would have been killed if he...

For one, his initial entrance into it. The "if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon", so right away inserting race into a case that we know had nothing to do with it. Also calling for more investigation, after he had already been investigated and they realized there was no case against him...