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Really lost alot of respect for Obama in all of his various reactions to this case. All he is doing now is causing people to lose more respect for the justice system, which in this case finally worked.

Vaclav's father was narrow in his research, therefore he is sure Maio was the same. Proven guys, how can you argue with this awesome set of facts?

This is exactly my problem with the show. The know-it-all hindsight analysis is ridiculous. So much could be done with a show on the news, but this show always takes the "100% hindsight" route and its just silly and bad. Take out the know-it-all hindsight though, and you are left with only...

So cnn still isn't done putting up propaganda bullshit http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...nutes.cnn.html Their 3 minute summary of the case, barely showing any of the key defense moments.

The real victim in all of this might have been Araysar. Poor guy was driven to racism and then given a month ban because of it and then quit. Lets all take a moment of silence for him.

Thanks for linking this. Really no one should ever take Sharpton seriously. In a better world his career would have ended after that.

Yeah, admitting you don't know the facts of the case but then arguing about the facts is pretty blatant trolling.

Following is not harassment. Firing a gunshot after being attacked is self-defense. Sorry but no reason at all Zimmerman should be punished.

CNN to me with the "fucking coons" comment just essentially made up was worse.

Well, I am sure he has plans to sue quite a few media companies. He might get some decent settlements out of that. Also, now he will be able to go on media shows and work to turn his image around. This is a pretty good guy after all, if he can get more of his side out there, it will help alot.

WTF. Don't come to this thread, start throwing around your assertions and then admit you didn't actually follow the case. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LOOK UP FACTS, THEN COME BACK AND DEBATE.

The defense said it best to the press. There is NO ONE in the room that thinks they should have charged 2nd degree murder. Absolutely ridiculous that was the initial charge. Hell, even stupid people like Charles and Numbers don't think he is guilty of 2nd degree murder. I hope we get jury...

Dude, if you were followed, then turned around and started punching them in the face, THEN you would be responsible. If you were followed and just went home or told them to back off, you would be fine. Do you understand anything about the facts of this case at all?

"I think the prosecution of George Zimmerman was disgraceful" Yep.

"I accept the jury verdict but make no mistake, he was profiled and killed for being black and wearing a hoodie." Despicable work from these prosecutors all the way through this trial.

Very surprised and happy that the jury was able to look past the emotional arguments and instead deal with the facts. For once, a high-profile case led to the correct ruling. Hopefully the jury, Zimmerman and his defense team won't have to deal with any retaliation.

Numbers be cryin now.

Welcome to the thread.

Yeah, if they decided he did self-defense, manslaughter shouldn't even be coming up. Then again, the prosecution tried their best to obscure that.

A jury agreed.

I can't imagine they would retry him if it is a hung jury. Their case was just so weak and the judge went out of her way to leave stuff out that the defense wanted. Political pressure though, who knows, I mean it never should have gotten here already.

Just fuck you for thinking that a giant robot movie with explosions is a michael bay "ripoff". Michael Bay hasn't done anything original enough to rip off. There is nothing from Michael Bay to "rip off" other than him completely fucking over franchises. Michael Bay didn't patent explosions or...

Good video Chuk, the first 25 minutes really lays out all the facts and background to the case, much of which hasn't been addressed at all by the media. While his last 10 minutes was really other stuff, I also enjoyed that. Most people think spanking is just perfectly fine with kids and you...

True enough, not much on atm really. Downloading the first season.

Asking my class if they thought he would be convicted or not is racebaiting?

Well, I think it is pretty clear that the people giving out money to make movies have no idea how to judge writers. I am pretty sure that a random poster on this forum could do a better job writing a script for Sharknado than the actual writers did, let alone if we sampled actual writers...

Yeah, I guess I just can't see how anyone rational can look at the facts that we know and think he is guilty. Yet I am sure you are right. I was actually tempted to poll my class on the subject after I heard 3 of my students talking about it, but then decided that would be a bad idea.

I am unsure on whether to give this show a shot? Was thinking in some ways it sounds like Terminator: Sarah connor chronicles. Is it comparable in quality at all to something like that?

You really haven't followed anything about how this even came to trial at all have you? I shouldn't feed the trolls, Im done.

It should have never even gone to court. He was only prosecuted because of political interference and pressure.

Note that I said "should". I don't think he should be convicted, its obvious the prosecution hasn't proved anything beyond a reasonable doubt. Yet in the end, you have a jury that is going to want to see someone punished because a kid died. He is going to get convicted of manslaughter in a gross...

So if GZ gets convicted, does that set a precedent that I can shoot anyone I suspect might be following me when I'm out walking my dog? Or can I only do that if we are of different races?

It is sad that a case is so one-sided that only a troll at this point could really believe that GZ should be convicted. I would say that maybe we are all just biased for some reason, yet we have people from the left and right in this thread. At this point, literally only Numbers thinks he should...

Couldn't they try him for violating Travyon's civil rights or some shit?

Yep, that is Josh Marshall's take. My guess is that he is anti-gun, so wants it put out there that if you have a gun, you should never be able to use it and then argue self-defense.

Using "wannabe cop" as a reason for Zimmerman be convicted is pretty much a sure sign the person doesn't know what they are talking about. GZ was a member of neighborhood watch, and his having a gun only possibly saved his life. We have no evidence that the gun itself had anything to do with the...

Josh Marshall isn't interpreting the evidence. He is ignoring it.

CNN talking about the prosecution closing statements: "Zimmerman had hate in his heart" "That child had every right to be afraid" Nice racebaiting prosecution, this is yet more things that will upset the gullible when he gets acquitted.

They are setting up the sequel, Sharlionado

Not everyone who disagrees with you is calling you retarded and we have argued with the foundation of what you are saying. Like Eomer just said, plenty of doctors and engineers fit in the 1%. Plenty of business owners. You are just flat out slandering way too many people. You are painting with a...