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No they don't. It's gun homicide rate, not gun death rate. I specifically filtered out suicides.

Huh?

You've never seen this guy? His news segments get linked to all the time by libertarians. I've seen dozens of them, and they never fail to make my eyes roll right out of my head. This one being no exception.

Liberty in regards to gun ownership? I'm willing to give up all of it. I don't personally give a shit about owning guns. I understand other people do, and that's fine. If you're someone who believes the 2nd amendment is worth the price of a higher rate of gun-related homicides, that's a totally...

I didn't say it should be done. I said it would reduce gun violence. Are you bad at reading?

The war on drugs was started by Nixon, by the way. Anyone remember what his political party was? Also, the next president after Nixon to make it a major priority was Reagan. I forget, was he a liberal?

Bro, I read this forum frequently, and it's quite obvious that you've become increasingly over the top on purpose. Reel your shit back in to something more believable if you want me to play along.

1 billion a year to "protect" what are essentially the safest places in the country. Good plan, Wayne.

Where my Tengrism at? If it's good enough for the Mongols it's good enough for me.

Just threw this together so there's some actual context and numbers for us to argue about.

Other than the 60 countries on Earth who've implemented gun control, reduced the number of guns in their countries, and have a fraction of our gun violence as a result?

To me it seems likely that many people would just replace their banned assault weapons with another weapon. I don't think selectively banning certain types of guns will dramatically reduce the number of gunsunlessyou ban most types of guns and heavily regulate ownership for the rest (like the UK...

Things that will actually reduce gun violence: Reduce the number of guns (especially handguns).End drug prohibition. Completely fucking idiotic ideas that will accomplish nothing of value: Banning "assault" weapons.More gun free zones.Armed guards in schools.Armed teachers.Regulating...

Gun control reduces gun violence. It's a fact. Would it have prevented this specific event? There is absolutely no way to know. But what we do know is there are about five fucking dozen countries scattered around this Earth that prove gun control reduces gun violence. A lot. I have no idea...

Japan has an extremely low gun-related homicide rate. They must not have video games there.

So basically gun people now think we should sacrifice the 1st amendment to the 2nd amendment?

The problem I have with the "defense against government tyranny" argument is that, given who's most likely to currently rise up against the government because of "tyranny," I'd most likely be rooting for the government to win.

Our gun-related homicide rate is absurd relative to the rest of the civilized world (and a decent chunk of the uncivilized world as well). It's not a mystery as to why some people think this is a problem.

What a badass. Dude deserves respect.

No clue. It's just not a fuckin' mystery what determines the homicide rate. GUYS MAYBE IF THE TEACHERS PACK ACRs errbody will be safe! If guns are outlawed only the criminals will have them hurrrrrr.

Sweden actually has a huge immigration problem. It's kinda hilarious, because there's like 70 countries with half our gun homicide rate. But we have to act like it's a fucking riddle how they accomplish that. THEY HAVE LESS GUNS. FUCKIN' PAZZOW. MAGIC. Nobody is surprised by this other...

Guys Sweden's gun-related homicide rate is 1/16th ours, but it's a mystery what we should do. There's so many layers, and culture, and... you know, sociology and shit. It's so complex!

The same Germany whose gun-related homicide rate is 1/15th our own? That one? By the way, France has won more wars than any other country on Earth. Speed limits don't eradicate all speeding, so we shouldn't have speed limits.

Maybe we could, you know, ask one of the 60+ countries whose gun-related homicide rates are a fraction of our own for ideas. Or not, whatevs. No big deal.

Our gun-related homicide rate is 14x higher than France. Probably because French principals are packing M4s.

The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must, Antony. You appear to beweakin the eyes of Thucydides.

Yeah, I live in fear of being droned by the President. It keeps me up at night.

Our gun-related homicide rate is 15x higher than Germany's. German teachers must be packing heat.

Go suck a dick you fuckin' idiot.

"We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we have systematically removed God from our schools," Huckabee said on Fox News. "Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage?" "We don't have a crime problem, a gun problem or even a violence problem. What we have...

This. I was also home schooled, and I agree with you completely.

Yeah, I know if I didn't learn about the committee on style and arrangement in college, I'd definitely feel robbed.

Tread carefully, seeing as the only major disruption to the veritable paradise known as Norway in recent times has been an overly xenophobic right-wing extremist. Just a friendly reminder.

Can we get an aychamo diagnosis up in this bitch.

Might.

Haha, that cat is fat as fuck.

I like your unicorns, but certain buzzwords like "liberty" and "freedoms" or quoting the founding fathers--those are my triggers. I can't help it anymore.

The point is, whenever we restrict certain freedoms, it almost always leads to an expansion of other freedoms. You guys frame these issues as though it's always a 1:1 trade-off of freedom for security. It's not. It never is. I mean look at fucking tad10. He immediately equates it to slavery, and...

These laws give me the ability to drive on the roads without significant risk of death. They make memorefree. This is what is wrong with this kind of twisted logic. You people think that security is the antithesis of freedom because some fatass gave us a memorable quote. The reality of the...

Yeah if you sacrifice any of your freedoms, you're a slave.