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My memory is foggy on this but wasn't the Horde a huge underdog on most servers during launch and BC? I just recall making Horde toons and loving the fact that BG's had no queues for Horde. But Alliance was always complaining about the queues. Could be wrong about all of that. Purple haze and all.

The little bit I played of New World was enjoyable. Very polished for an alpha. Not sure where they are going with the game or if it's my type of play style, but really hope they do well with it. Need to encourage other developers in the west to make new AAA mmos. Best way to do that is for...

Collector's editions of mmo's use to give you a beginner mount, early access, and the like. So there was an in game benefit. Always got those, anything to get ahead. For single player games it really depends on what's included, but usually it's a pass. Didn't see anything in the C77 editions...

GW2's Combat is pretty fun. Constantly moving, with deep combos, etc. possible, especially in PvP. Until Black Desert came out, I thought it was the best of most of the mmo's also. But since BDO there have been a couple of mmo's with good combat. And never got around to Tera, which is older...

Unless they changed it recently, the main issue is the auction house. But other than that, I don't know how much it matters, other than the look of a list full of empty servers.

Didn't mean to imply that WoW classic servers will be totally empty a month after launch. Far from it. Just meant that it will be like all the other mmo launches and EQ progressions servers. A huge influx in the beginning who then leave within weeks. While a minority sticks around. In WoW a...

I think you are right, at least at launch. Going to be huge. Then the population will drop like a rock after the rose colored glasses break. A sea of empty classic servers after a month or so. Probably going to play and I'm about as casual as you can get in WoW. Subbed less than a year total...

WoW 2 would be my preference. Start new and sunset WoW 1. It's already being abandoned by the players. Do the EQ thing and launch classic WoW progressions servers every couple of years for people who like the race.

Guess you missed Woodstock (as did I). Every generation of kids just out of school and home always rebel against what they see as Tyranny. Even though it was just their parents telling them to take out the trash.

Loot and drama. The main reason most raiding guilds fall apart. I wonder how real life pirates dealt with it. "Arr matey THAT'S MINE!. I did more DPS on that gold filled galleon! To the yard arm with ye!" Buff out the main tank (or whatever is the critical class) first and hope he sticks around...

Excellent stuff. Hope to see more like this in the future.

Yeah, I worded that badly. If I recall correctly you use to be able to stop leveling at 19 and just play a twinked out toon in low level BG's forever, or well, until they changed it. But it's been a long time, don't recall the exact details anymore.

This thread reminds me of... pretty much every WoW thread ever.

BG's during TBC were a ton of fun. Most of my time playing WoW was during that time in BG's. Never made max level, but loved playing BG's. Even had a lvl 19 twink after a while. Think it was a druid, but I played a lot of low level BG's on various toons back then. If they let you twink again, I...

Yeah. Love the franchise but it's a bit weird and creepy sometimes. Different cultures and all. After the general population has moved on in a few years, most of the players left in the west will be the creeps. Happened to Aion.

Pretty hard to believe since GW2 is one of the most popular MMO's. What I've heard is that they are working on Living World Season 5, that will come out next. After that, another expansion. Lol. Yeah, lots of people complaining about the time gate. Still working on earlier episodes so haven't...

Path of Fire (PoF) gives you access to mounts. You will need that at a minimum if you want them. They are extremely helpful, even in the old world. Heart of Thorns (HoT) has a ton of content and meta events that people like to farm. I definitely recommend it. Most people go back to HoT zone...

Last episode of Living World Season 4 is up. Free for a week or so if you log in. It has the new mount - Skyscale.

Playing Elite Dangerous recently. Good game, has been for a while. SC has a long ways to go to beat Elite. At this rate, I'm seriously doubting they can do it before we all reach retirement age.

Plenty of mmos being made in Asia. Most of which are grind til you're blind games with P2W shops. It's the west that has given up on mmos.

The media likes QB's. Nothing exciting about this draft's QB's, even the short one. Lot of value this draft in the defense, just not as easy to evaluate or put a meme too.

They are still working on base systems (64 bit client, network stuff, etc.), so it will be a while before anything cool is available to play. I think Mark mentioned in a post somewhere that once the base systems are done then making he rest of the game will be relatively fast because they are...

Finally got an invite. Played a bit a couple of days ago. Very polished, especially for a alpha. Didn't get far but the beginning is interesting.

There is no game yet to review. The people panning Pantheon are actually just attacking Brad for various reasons. As for Pantheon, it's just too early to say if it's good or bad. And being a crowdfunded game, it will be a very long time before there is a game to play or have a valid opinion of...

The gaming industry is part of the entertainment industry as a whole. There are so many idiots willing to work for nothing to just be a part of the industry that it makes getting a decent wage almost impossible. Why should a gaming company pay top dollar when there are a ton of very talented...

Which would mean that launching the game is the end of their gravy train. Selling hopium is extremely lucrative. Not following this that closely but it would seem to me that they are going to milk the hopium train for as long as they can before pushing out V1.0. And even after (if) it launches...

It all depends on the picks and how well they do in free agency. They aren't totally bereft of talent. They just have huge holes that need to be filled after losing Khalil, etc. It wasn't long ago that they went 12-4 with Carr and might have done even better if he hadn't broke his leg. That was...

Lol, of course. But they still have 3 first round picks and a ton of cap money to work with. If the Raiders suck again this year it will all be on Gruden. Gruden is the real issue with the Raiders. I was never sold on him coming back and I still am not. But now wer're stuck with him so...

Carr's best receiver last year was Jared Cook. a tight end. At one point last year they had a guy catching balls a week after he was watching the games from his couch. In spite of his total lack of receiving talent and a horrible offensive line, Carr had one of his best years statistically...

Damnit. Who do I have to bribe to get access so I can download the game, play for 10 minutes and then rail on the forums?

@Cynical Aye, wrong post. But the point was general so left it as is.

Yeah. Really not sure where you are coming from with this. It just has no connection with reality or anything I've said. I wasn't targeting you specifically, but you are one of the most prolific posters in this thread so you are a useful foil for the general point being made. Anyways (to...

I don't really see any shills here, most people in favor of Pantheon seem pretty reasonable and realistic about it's chances. I do see a lot of extreme hate for Brad though. Almost psychopathic, definitely loony. Would love to see Pantheon succeed but not for the reasons you state. I don't...

EQ Classic servers and WoW classic servers are still popular and that is with extremely old graphics and play styles. Pantheon may fail but it won't be because of it's old school style. Games don't fail because of style. They fail because they are not fun or they don't work. And nobody knows if...

/shrug Fanboy it is. I don't have a problem with that, you sure do though. You are swinging at air here. Must be frustrating.

It has only failed in your mind. For the rest of us who understand the X games, it's business as usual.

Denaut just doesn't like the game(s) or the company and doesn't understand how anyone else can. I haven't played X4 yet, but will eventually. Liked X2 / X3, but I waited a long time for them to fix them up before jumping in. That's just the way this company operates and it works for them.

At this point it's a contest between, Pantheon, Star Citizen, Camelot Unchained, Crowfall and Ashes of Creation. Who will launch first? Who will launch last? And who will never see the light of day? 2020 is just around the corner and it's an easy bet that NONE of them will be launching this year.

They waited too long to launch Classic. I had originally intended to play also. Was never a huge WoW fan but I did start playing during BC and had a lot of fun in that version of the game. And would have enjoyed a classic server even 2 or 3 years ago. But WoW is too old now. My last try at the...

Ok, the Warclaw is fucking fun. Totally changes the game. Had a blast last night, is spite of the 70 man queues in T1.