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If I was on the team I wouldn't of let them put up that giant piece of shit of a kickstarter, if they did anyways I would spend the rest of the time touching up my resume. I am not blaming anyone for bailing out of a sinking ship, otherwise they might get lined up in front of the garage in a...

Stretching dollars = Good Moving a team cross country = Dumb Sorry man the more you push this issue the dumber it gets, nobody disagrees there are cheaper areas to work and Cali isn't the best state when it comes to taxes but packing your shit to move to buttfuck nowhere because the dollars...

I am curious what pushing forward entails, the impression that we given earlier was if this funding didn't come through they were losing the team. It didn't really come across as these guys were willing to share bunks and live off ramen in order to get this running. Or are they expecting if they...

Even so don't act like there is no accountability on kickstarter. Example of kickstarter creator being sued and losing. However, since they won't get funded it doesn't really matter, but if they did get the 800k they would be required to follow through if someone pushed the issue or they...

You say that but where again do you get the confidence about this from? You already know that some of his staff is ready to bail to get a job if this freebie player funded paycheck doesn't come in. You see the level of work they have and it still isn't at the level that an investor is going to...

That's true maybe I am using the wrong words there, the world itself looks pretty amazing, I think it's just some of the characters themselves I have seen, then again it might just be what I have seen on twitch since I haven't played it myself yet. The game world and size and scale all seem...

Well EQN will probably draw a fair bit of attention. It could turn out to be something really cool, and Landmark is slightly interesting, although if you check out some of the streams on twitch for it the one thing that stands out pretty badly is how sterile everything is. The graphics are...

I don't think my standards are set so high here, all I wanted to something honest and direct and thought thru, I guess I am just amazed that other's standards as so low that those things are considered unreasonable to ask for. Who told you to stop talking about it? I have been talking about the...

This is kind of what I mean, I am going to ask this and I am being fully serious and not condescending at all. Can you please in detail explain to me what exactly is so promising? Enlighten me on what you actually see when you go to the kickstarter that I am missing? Did you see some design docs...

That's the thing so many of these guys just can't get. You can dive into the semantics of how Vanguard went or how great EQ was but aside from the people here nobody fucking cares. When Joe the accountant, Suzy the school teacher, Alex the ex-wow player, or even good ole Little Timmy stumbles...

Not really, and I am not pointing the finger at you with that comment really either, but being impressed that they are working hard having little sleep and acting passionate about things when money is on the line last minute isn't exactly something anyone here should be looking at and saying...

Someone explain to me why we should be all happy and proud of the fact that they are finally putting in some work?

No really I am sure if everyone keeps hoping hard enough Tinkerbell will come back to life and this kickstarter will get funded.

You obviously cant read for shit. Maybe remove your head from your asshole and contribute something.. look at your post history it's complete horseshit either sucking on the Pantheon cock or bitching about other posters.. You are Jack's bleeding vagina.

Did we somewhere along the way start assuming this would get funded?

Why stop there ordering the game via digital download also reduces the interaction with other people. The game should only be sold in stores and you need to interact with best_buy_cashier_01 to get your copy.

I think some of you confuse "Niche" with "A giant bag of shit" sorry but trying to make the game as awful as possible and claiming it's "niche" isn't the best plan.

You mean you want spam. Between spam and a basic LFG listing the listing seems a much better choice

To take the devils advocate side of things, most everyone here would be happy with a true successor to Everquest an Everquest 2 if you will, and no I don't mean that awful creation Sony put out. So it's no surprise that we want the mechanics and world to feel the same way. Some people like Dumar...

Just to put things in perspective as well this board has always and probably will always hate LFG of any kind. I remember when these steaming piles of shit called Meeting Stone's popped up in WoW which I think we almost immediately dubbed "Retard Rocks" were added to the game. We hated them at...

You guys really don't want them to have any players beyond the 2000 or so who are backing the kickstarter do you?

This is a debatable point though, not everyone is as much as a masochist as you are Dumar. I wish I could find the quote but Blizzard had numbers supporting that more than 70% of the players that played never made it past level 10. Those first few levels are where you needed the biggest help...

This might sound counter intuitive but often it's the lower level the noobie experience that benefits the most by zipping around and easy grouping, and basic hand holding, it helps them invest into the game world and grow attached to their characters. It would be interesting to see how many...

To much bypassing with teleporting and LFG type features and you end up missing how truly big the world is. How many times in your life have people told you the story of this little adventure here? I bet a ton, in fact you heard boogie and how fond of a memory that was. Sadly it's a rough...

This is moral debate about kickstarter that many people have, it started getting attention with people like Zach Braff, and other celebrities started using kickstarter to fund projects. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...h-i-was-here-1 The question then becomes should kickstarter only...

That's all it is, now give em both money and get an in-game cape.

When you look back at WoW I think many people tend to forget a lot of the bugged areas of the game, but they were mainly post-40 as you mentioned. One thing I learned over the years from repeated posts from Blizzard was the need to hook players right away. They always had some insane number of...

Would rather these guys combine resources and make one game together instead.

Jesus christ if you stick your tongue any further up Brad's ass do you get a cut of the profits?

There really weren't any main points. You can sum up the whole thing with, EQ was great, He fucked up with Vangaurd, and gimme money for the kickstarter. Wasn't much substance beyond that

Thing is we have harped and harped on how shitty the kickstater was, how they should pull it down, ect., ect., but you know as well as I there is no way for them to go back and see what could of been. Sure it sucks that they lost out on who knows how many backers, and even now I feel there is a...

Dahkoht is correct, there isn't anything to twist, this was a smart move from them. Not sure how many new backers it will reach but in the very least it got the attention of people who didn't know about it.

Well again think of it from the perspective of someone who's first MMO was Wrath of the Lich King, or some other bag of shit MMO. When you describe an MMO like Pantheon to them it probably sounds like all a ton of bullshit tedium with no real positives.

Maybe he should start his own channel. "Keeping it real with Brad"

I am starting to think you don't know what an Alpha is like. Most people aren't going to want to play it even if 6,000 people have access to it.

No I am well aware of everything with Curt Schilling, I have been at these boards since Luclin was current. You are right anything can happen but I meant is I think his intention is to try and make the game, if that turns into a mismanaged fiasco that would make a VH1 behind the music story look...

Yeah, anyone who thinks that he will use the money he might get from this on anything but the game is just trolling. If this gets funded he will use to for staff, office space, and whatever else is needed. (What you can aruge, is that the money won't be used efficiently and they might not...

I appreciate the response, the thing is I actually believe you could raise quite a bit of money a little further down the road through kickstarter. I know you are working hard on this and it continues to improve but I don't understand why you guys don't re-define your current efforts. I think...