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They aren't having to pay anything. Brad is just holding their credit card info for safe keeping. He's a nice guy like that.

I am well aware and have been pointing this out for a couple of weeks now. It's actually 8% total but even so they can steal that $400k without as much as a 2nd glance.

I kind of hope Brad and pals toss in $400k to defraud kickstarter and these guys out of their money. For um.. science or something.

Someone PM me if they want to toss out a scroll of rez before they shut her down on in a couple of days.

Yeah it's our fault. Again mental gymnastics and abused girlfriend syndrome.

Omg man there are so many differences between those two kickstarters it isn't even funny. Let's see they have a team who aren't embarrassed to put there name, pictures, and credentials on the goddamn thing. They have a plan and even take the time to point out some of the inherent risks involved...

I just wonder where all the "It will fund" and "This game is getting made with or without the kickstarter" posters disappeared to.

The sad thing is if they find an investor/publisher for this failure then that's one less investor/publisher willing to take a chance on a group that deserves the money.

You don't have to sell me on this team being dogshit. I have been calling them out to the point some of the fanboys here hate me for shitting on their messiah, but I won't claim to have hated it before seeing the kickstarter which is what he was saying. Once the kickstarter dropped then sure.

I am cynical and critical of this project as much as the next guy but to chime in with some told you so the second the thread was started is some bullshit. The idea was solid, but you couldn't call bullshit until they showed all they had was some IHOP napkins with plans on them.

I swear some of you are like abused girlfriends. It doesn't matter what he does you will find a way to justify it. He only lies and beats me because he loves me. Nah baby I am sorry about the last time, just gimme another chance I promise it will be different. I've changed I swear...

Now we're cooking with gas. Dumb Everquest

This is another non-update just like all the others. They have given up on the kickstarter otherwise they wouldn't be scurrying around trying to port everything over to the pay to read website, and just like with Vanguard his excuse is the same. Sorry guys I uhh was looking for investors...

Quaid is half retarded though so I wouldn't be to hard on him.

At that price you can't afford not to!!

There are also people who run over and tell this team everything bad we might say as if they are some sort of 3rd grade tattle-tail hoping to score additional faction points with there Pantheon overlords. I kind of hope it funds now because anyone who loses money at this point deserves it...

What's amazing is the comments to backers ratio on kickstarters that are actually going to fund.

Oh shit sorry I doubted them pledging that last $10,000 slot tonight.

Who gives a shit about which was more difficult, WoW has DDO heroics, and EQ had buggy gameplay and mass group coordination. They were both fun games and both were worth being played in their prime. Arguing semantics about which was better is subjective as hell, which makes it pointless to...

I am sure he has learned some lessons, but they don't appear to be the right ones. You know he could of just been open and direct from the start and people, myself included would be a lot less critical of mistakes. You are posting often on the kickstarter about how great everything is and how...

No Way dude, didn't you know kickstarters get a big push of cash the last couple of days, everyone on the kickstarter comments and the people here even told me so.

Let's see if there is enough interest in a niche pay-access forum, for a niche pay-access game. How many zealots are needed to keep 10 grown men from finding real jobs? Right now the minimum wage is $8.00 per hour. 10 staff at 40 hours a week is $3200 a week or $12,800 a month. It would...

Hell if nothing else I give credit to the fact this guy has some giant fucking balls to pull this.

Look's like they are giving up on the kickstarter though.

It's possible, I haven't really given to much thought to everyone's discretionary spending and like you I consider a couple hundred dollars no big deal and gladly spend more than that on hobbies and things that interest me. Nor, have I told anyone what to do with there money, and I fully support...

I have watched most of the interviews and I agree that they aren't bad, sadly I just don't believe them when they talk anymore. At first I was pretty optimistic as was mostly everyone, but actions speak louder than words, so over time their words mean less and less and I have been making...

Ok, then refute me, with some actual answers. I know it's fun to get paid to shill on a board, god knows you had no interest here prior to the kickstarter because of your join date. Unlike you, I have been coming here since about late 2002-2003, so it does make me sad to see this community taken...

On your nose there is too much brown.

I agree with this from the stance that you will never get a niche game out of a triple A studio. Sony, EQ, Blizzard, Microsoft, but a small indie development team could and it could very well be profitable enough, you underestimate how much money gaming makes. I am not in the gaming industry but...

Wow some of you guys are all over the fucking place the last day or so. The level of dipshittery is off the charts. First off nobody is sitting at their computers hoping that a good solid old school MMO fails, if you think that you are a fucking idiot or a troll. Do you really think there are...

You keep making excuses for them, I understand why you might want the type of game they promise but it seems you are the one defending their choices instead of them learning and improving. You can go back 500 pages or so when we were talking about stretch goals and I was making the same...

What's the most amazing isn't their lack of presence recently, and it surely isn't the 2 blurb napkin scribble about a race they want a couple million to think about making. In a way it's kind of impressive the giant set of balls on these guys and the big middle finger they are waving at all...

I guess they are just counting on the people with money to throw away.

You ladies need to simmer the fuck on down now, with this retardation. No shit it's fantasy you worthless cunt, and if they wanted they could add space chimps, cardboard swords, and flying unicorns that shit rainbows but it would be stupid as fuck. I don't get you dumbasses either, first you...

The KS take is 8% of the total. If they put a fucking please gimme money sign on their website it is true they get access to the funds right away but they also have zero accountability on having to follow through with anything at all. While there might not be a huge amount of accountability with...

More leaked concept art. Here is the backpack for the Dark Knight class.

Oh my mistake it's Austin fucking Texas that we pulled out of our ass that they are imaginarily moving to well then they should pack their bags right fucking now then. Or it's possible I didn't name a specific place because it doesn't matter where they move it's a horribly shitty idea regardless...

That it tempting, but after seeing the new concept art how can you pass up dual shields.

What the hell are you talking about, pretty sure I've been pretty consistent on my opinion for as long as this has been going. But OK they are 100% committed to following through, but now with no money. It must be nice living in fantasy land.

I am not going to dig through 800 pages of shit to find it, but it was mentioned earlier in this thread, if everyone was willing to get another job and work part time on this if they had to, that would indicate that they had a passion for this project which just doesn't seem to be there.