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I don't usually agree with Tenks, but when I do you can be damn sure he's right.

And what happens? Without my wisdom to guide one, one might end up posting idiotic shit like this: Because you would totally store info about your mana pool on the client and not the server? Oh wait, you wouldn't do that at all unless you were a complete moron. That information would reside...

Sweet. A response that is an admission that you don't know shit about different mana systems in RPGs. Thanks for playing.

I won't defend the non-implementation in a mostly non-existent game (Pantheon) but with respect to colored mana in RPGS generally, you have no idea what you're talking about. Go play a couple hundred games of Realmspeak and get back to me. Properly done it creates an interesting dynamic...

Properly, colored mana is a class mechanic and class mechanics and combat need to be developed simultaneously before you do anything else... so yeah, needs to be first thing worked on.

Colored Mana works great in an RPG: the single best RPG boardgame's (Magic Realm) mana system is color based. The most well known colored mana system is probably MTG - but that's not a very good implementation of colored mana: in a game of MTG you end up with either too little mana early or...

Let's not since that's not an MMO. I'm well aware of your feeling on roles, and we couldn't disagree more. Rules (aka limits) are what make for interesting games: roles in an MMO are the set of rules (aka limits) for playing a character - the fun part is figuring out those limits and doing...

The problem isn't the rate of content creation: the problem is that the every expansion guts the previous expansions content and achievements. Which means that all the energy you spent getting that purple item in Vanilla or TBC or X is absolutely pointless as soon as TBC or WotlK or X+1...

It's a different and worse problem for skill (buffet) systems. In a class system one or more classes can feel useless for a particular period but that's fixable without creating a new flavor of the month in theory, if not always in practice. In buffet systems you will always create a new...

Had the best starting areas and arguably best 10-20 areas. After that, nothing.

And just like buffets everywhere, buffet style systems are light on taste and long on empty calories.

FTFY

That's just bad reporting. The quote they cite and you cited earlier says nothing about renewing or not renewing the contract and everything about shutting down the company. Now whether something was said in a private call between the two who knows - but the reporter doesn't cite the call, they...

Pretty sure that's about their decision to end their business not terminate their relationship with SOE.

I don't recall SB ever saying that. They said they were the ones who decided to shutdown SB and that had nothing to do with SOE/Daybreak. I thought it was understood that SOE/Daybreak ended the SB relationship.

Fair enough. Except for the last bit - no telling WTF SOE/Daybreak is thinking these days.

I have no idea what AI goal Daybreak is shooting for these days. Are these goals listed somewhere? With respect to Storybricks: the basic concept seemed pretty simple in concept, no clue as to execution. 1. Instead of faction with groups, you have faction (let's call it "standing" to...

Eh. That's fine - my main point was directed to the guys who couldn't accept that SB could have found funding to buy SOE. With respect to the technology, I too would have liked to seen a better demonstration of the technology than what I've seen (which is most of the old SB videos).

Hard to say about the timing. I don't know, but I suspect that Smed fucked SB over with the classic: hey tech guys work for us for a year or two at a convict labor rate and if we like your stuff I'll get Sony to buy your tiny company for millions, honest. I suspect that SB saw the fuckup that...

Can't be emphasized enough. Brad should stick to ideas/design and leave management to someone else. If he ever did that with Pantheon, I'd be far more optimistic of its chances.

And then nothing. The SB guys have stated they had the money lined up for the acquisition when they went to negotiate with Sony Japan with their offer. That and some M&A attorneys are all you ever really need for any acquisition ever in the history of the world (barring acquiring land from...

To whom are you referring? If SB, then you don't know what you're talking about, if Astral Projection, then you do, and I agree.

What didn't you get? It wasn't SB that was going to Buy a faltering SOE, it was an investor group that an SB guy or guys had rounded up that was going to buy SOE.

If you basically want to play WoW, why don't you go play WoW?

Bah. Scope creep. The original dual archetype thing (IIRC) was ridiculous. Just do traditional EQ classes and work on something innovative with the inevitable quest system (/mourn StoryBricks) and/or combat. Don't try to make everybody a hybrid: road to Hell paved with good intentions and etc.

Seems like a great way to get your playerbase really pissed off at you.

No. I (we're) questioning why you're not making the game the way it should be made: one or two zones, work on combat/classes, iterate until combat and classes are fun - make lots more zones.

Yeah. No. If Brad and Co. had spent all their time working on developing a demonstrably fun game within one or two zones they could take that to kickstarter and get fully funded for the rest. People, such as myself, didn't fund the kickstarter because there was nothing there.

Way too many zones and effort into art. You should have made one zone and just worked on combat and the engine in that zone until you were happy "with the current performance." SMH.

Eh. that sounds a bit wack but it was a PvP game. A little too generic: piercing for example might normally do less or much less damage than a mace (crushing) vs Plate but if you crit (indicating that you pierced through the armor) should have a much higher chance to crit. Anyway, I'd like...

Just want to comment on this briefly - as we all know Schilling used to visit the foh forums where, after he announced the project, he was told repeatedly to stay focused and have a narrow scope. He ignored all of the various naysayers with comments like: we're making a AAA title, go big or go...

So...

All great games are based on Rock Paper Scissors (thus your DAoC example - presumably Hib was best against Alb??). With respect to different weapon types granting different abilities, the same could be said of different armor types. A Fighter just wearing Leather might be granted a "Leap...

That doesn't bother me: keeps players interested in weapon drops even if they already have a very good primary weapon. In one sense it's analogous to granting specific resistances to bosses (Fire Elemental Boss is fully resistant to fire) and forcing magic-using types to use different spells...

I think that's the consensus at this point: followup question will either survive past Alpha?

I'm not entirely convinced you know what you're talking about: Smed hired and promoted those people. Smed approved their budgets. Smed has been running SOE into the ground since 2003.

You guys still don't get it: Smed is the bad guy. He's the main reason EQ and SOE were crapfests at the end.

This.

I don't remember how it worked in WoW but logically developers should stop worrying about dps and speed so much and design around the types of damages these weapons deliver: slashing versus crushing in the case of a sword and a mace. That combined with a good weapon specialization skill system...